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Old 06-03-2009, 11:09 PM
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Angry This has gotten really old...

In every TV discussion/interview about GM, someone inevitably says "GM doesn't build cars people want". Today, the Secretary of Transportation said it. Just a few minutes ago, I heard Andy Richter, on the Tonight Show, say the same thing. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
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Maybe thats a small reason why their bankrupt?
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GM's sales are down as much as everyone else. The only difference is they do not have a huge cash reserve to absorb the losses like Toyota.
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Couldn't agree more. GM builds cars nobody wants yet for 75 straight years they were the number 1 global sales leader and are still number 2. That a lot of cars nobody wants.
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Originally Posted by Z28CamaroPower!
In every TV discussion/interview about GM, someone inevitably says "GM doesn't build cars people want". Today, the Secretary of Transportation said it. Just a few minutes ago, I heard Andy Richter, on the Tonight Show, say the same thing. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
Just a bunch of ignorant parrots repeating what they've heard other ignorant parrots saying.
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Couldn't agree more. GM builds cars nobody wants yet for 75 straight years they were the number 1 global sales leader and are still number 2. That a lot of cars nobody wants.

Beat me to it.

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It was old 15 years ago.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:53 AM
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translation:
Gm doesn't build cars with a toyota logo.

Take off the GM logo and suddenly people want the same car that 2 seconds ago wasn't cool.

Most of the general buying public is like the iphone generation, they only want somethings that 'new and shiney' to show they are hip.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:59 AM
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For cars that no one wants they sure do sell a lot of them.
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I feel the same way. Cars people don't want? They still outsold every other company in the US...I guess one or two people still want them. I guess it's hard not to jump on the bandwagon though.
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What's funny, is that in the last year GM has announced it will stop producing nearly all of the cars it makes I'd want to buy.
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GM makes cars that people want to buy.
Problem is, Toyota makes just as many, and at a profit.
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Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
translation:
Gm doesn't build cars with a toyota logo.

Take off the GM logo and suddenly people want the same car that 2 seconds ago wasn't cool.

Most of the general buying public is like the iphone generation, they only want somethings that 'new and shiney' to show they are hip.
sounds funny that Lutz had the REAL thing happen to him in tests..and the people found out they were not toyotas and they changed thier votes..
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Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
translation:
Gm doesn't build cars with a toyota logo.

Take off the GM logo and suddenly people want the same car that 2 seconds ago wasn't cool.

Most of the general buying public is like the iphone generation, they only want somethings that 'new and shiney' to show they are hip.
holy **** is that true.

I want to shoot myself, on a g6 board I am arguing with members about how their G6 GT is not much faster then my G6 base V6.

same car
same motor

Only differnce the GT has tapshift, which everyone agrees is lame.
Gt has adjustable pedals.
GT has a .23 better final drive.


Yet they will argue that a GT, will smoke v6s by buslengths because they are "base models"
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Originally Posted by Caps94ZODG
sounds funny that Lutz had the REAL thing happen to him in tests..and the people found out they were not toyotas and they changed thier votes..
I remember reading the same thing back in the 1990s, where GM would win consumer clinics where the badges were covered, but lose once the the badges were revealed.

That tells you it's almost purely a marketing problem.

And how do you solve a marketing problem? Increase the budgets. How do you increase the marketing budgets? Kill the secondary brands and funnel the money into the core products. (Unfortuantely, killing the secondary brands requires going bankrupt.)

With GM focused on selling one car against the Camry instead of three, don't be surprised if the Malibu is on top of the sales charts within a few years.
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