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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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GTO...Hmmm...

This is something that has bothered me about certain cars in the past, but perhaps is now painfully apparent now that GTO has not lived up to certain claims...

The goat stickers for what...$33k? $34k? Loaded. To the flippin gills. Leather, high-end sound system (for GM anyway) etc etc. I know it wasnt practical because of importation and such, but what could have been, if say, GTO was given an option list with more than one box to check?

Could it have meant more sales? Ecspecially in the early part of the '04 run? A $28k goat with cloth seats and a regular stereo might have drawn in quite a few more purchases, couldnt it have?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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It's not the price.....

It's the ugly styling!
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ronssito
It's not the price.....

It's the ugly styling!
yep. I already own a 1999 Grand Prix. I dont need another.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ronssito
It's not the price.....

It's the ugly styling!

I dont know how anyone could call this car ugly. It looks like a typical pontiac (a little better in my opinion, besides the trans am). The only complaint I have ever heard about Pontiac's styling (excluding the Aztec) is all of the "body cladding" which they have done away with. Aside from the big flower petal wheels most people I know who have looked at one close up in person think these are very good looking cars. I'm waiting to see a few with some aftermarket wheels.....same with the new mustangs....
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jawzforlife
yep. I already own a 1999 Grand Prix. I dont need another.

And Camaro's look like Geo Storms and Chyrsler Sebrings...



I hate jumping in often on this, because I feel like I am trying to "defend" my car... but how many times can this be said like it is some new revelation?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Actually, Camaros DO look like mini Geo Storms. That's because the Storm was styled to look like a mini camaro. That's why it has the same style of headlights, taillights, rear glass and even the B-pillar shape of the camaro was replicated (though in glass).
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WERM
Actually, Camaros DO look like mini Geo Storms. That's because the Storm was styled to look like a mini camaro. That's why it has the same style of headlights, taillights, rear glass and even the B-pillar shape of the camaro was replicated (though in glass).

Geo Storm came out in 1990, so that would make the 4th gen look like the Geo Storm, not the storm be styled after the 4th gen camaro
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Re: GTO...Hmmm...

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
And Camaro's look like Geo Storms and Chyrsler Sebrings...



I hate jumping in often on this, because I feel like I am trying to "defend" my car... but how many times can this be said like it is some new revelation?
Best to ignore them. These people who call the GTO ugly would probably rather be driving a cartoon than a car.

I think it looks fine -- a little more front overhang than the modern RWD style (derived from BMW/Mercedes), but less than FWD vehicles. It looks a lot like what a RWD 2 door Grand Prix would look like. What's wrong with that?

People whining about the GTO not looking like an original GTO don't seem to be whining about the GP not looking like an original GP. Why not?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by teal98
Best to ignore them. These people who call the GTO ugly would probably rather be driving a cartoon than a car.
Maybe they just have a different opinion based on their different tastes?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Maybe they just have a different opinion based on their different tastes?
Could be, but I don't think so. I think they're mostly trolling.

If the GTO looks like a GP, and you own a GP, and you think the GTO is ugly, then why do you have a GP?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Darth.. don't you know.... any car that isn't retro is ugly
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by teal98
Could be, but I don't think so. I think they're mostly trolling.

If the GTO looks like a GP, and you own a GP, and you think the GTO is ugly, then why do you have a GP?
I should restate by reasoning for not liking the GTO.
Its not because I think it s ugly...its because I think it looks blan and unoriginal.

I've only seen 2-3 GTO in my area on the road, and every time I've seen one I thought it was a Grand Prix or Sunfire.

Also I could give a rats *** if it looked like a "retro" GTO. I'm not even asking for hood scopes (and I might say the '05 scopes are a sorry excuse for scopes).

All I have to say is make it look like the Woodward car and I'm all for it.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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im pretty sure the Monaro (what the GTO is) was made prior to that '99 Grand Prix.... so... yeah...
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangmuncher
im pretty sure the Monaro (what the GTO is) was made prior to that '99 Grand Prix.... so... yeah...
Nobody is saying the GTO is modeled after the Grand Prix, but it sure does look similar, and could definitely look more aggressive.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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I can understand saying the GTO is bland, but ugly? Methinks some of us have forgotten the true meaning of ugly.



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