base price keeps going up as well. Will keep people away even though they are likely adding items to standard equipment.

 

On a side note............ what is up with the Lambda's???

The Ford Edge outsold the Acadia and Outlook combined. This is all the more troubling when you look at the lukewarm reviews for the Edge, vs the great reviews for the Lambda's.

So, I ask, whats up??? (remember that Edge supplies are constricted also, as they only started showing up on lots in mid December)

 

This really shows that trucks are GM's strength. This is good news. Im not a big fan of GM but i'd hate to see a company with so much history go down. This shows theyre still alive and kickin.

 

Robert, I think you have it confused. When GM reports a sale I believe it is a sale to a dealership, where GM's sale ends.

 

Robert's on planet Nissan, you have to cut him some slack.

A sale is a sale just as a registration is a registration. Production is not what sales figures are base on, Robert.

 

Maybe because the Edge is much smaller than GM's offerings of Outlook and Arcadia and is in a different segment?? I know the Equinox/Torrent was one of my last choices when I looked for an SUV around that size. Actually it bordered POS compared to the others I looked at.

I LOVED The Outlook but it was a little bit bigger than what we wanted. Ended up getting an 07 Murano.
I think we will see the Arcadia and Outlook pick up sales as they get more exposure.

 

Here, I see at least 4 to 5 commercials a night of the "Edge", with the car driving on the side of skyscrapers with the "I like to live on the Edge" song playing in the background...
I can't remember seeing ONE Acadia or Outlook commercial yet, maybe it's my location..
Out of sight, out of mind....

 

Yep, Edge is smaller, generally less expensive and has gotten a monster push from Ford even before its release. It's also a bit telling that Ford is already offering financing incentives on the Edge. They aren't huge incentives, but they are there.

 

No - not confused...production numbers refers to the units that come out of the end of the plant; sales are those unites actually sold to the end user (meaning the dealer unless the article is specifically referring to retail sales to individual customers).

I wasn’t necessarily disagreeing with guionM’s point; I just pointing out (not that I expect that ssbaby would get it), that there is a difference between a manufacturer’s production counts and its sales; they are not interchangeable terms nor are they interchangeable numbers.

 

I think the sticking point is that Chrysler was loosing sales a year ago Feb. and they were still producing the same number of vehicles (or more) so the stockpile went up. Production doesn't have an impact on sales numbers. (unless there are not enought to meed demand, not an issue here)
G, stated that an 8.3% decrease in sales this Feb. over last years numbers wasn't to bad. I don't know if I agree with that because a loss like that over a poor sales mark last year isn't good.

 

The telling number in this case is neither sales or production.

It's market share.

Everyone will have competed in the same conditions. Those gaining share are the ones to watch.

 

Well that, and inventory, lol..

 

Market share those are evil words in Detroit!

If we throw in market share then we should add profits in too...
There are so many ways to measure car companies. I think the reason why eveyone takes these monthly sales numbers only so seriously is because its only part of the very big picture. GM can be up in sales down in profits and market share but up in production.

All it means is Rick Wagoner has a few more grey hairs, they keep the lights on and build and sell more cars for us to argue about.

We'll be here next month same time and place.

 

I don't work at a GM plant, but at my UAW plant, vehicles come down the line, already purchased, with the name of the customer at the top of the build sheet, our customers being Companies.
Actually layoffs etc are based on the "Order Board"(sales) not so much on projected sales.

 

If you want to be pedantic, no manufacturer can directly influence market share... it's just a sometimes meaningless statistic which could help to make a convincing argument. The manufacturer does, however, have direct input to sales and production... and profit!

There, had to get that off my chest.