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GM Disbands High Performance Vehicle Unit

Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Very sad, GM needs these guys for Cadillac.

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HHR SS terrible - (HHR was a bad idea to begin with, don't add insult to injury)
I disagree, adding the LNF to any smaller vehicle is a good idea. HHR styling was bad (retro was already stale in 2006). HHR is GMs Ford Escape/ Honda CR-V/ Jeep Patriot yet has no AWD option.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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This is getting out of hand. Its a rather stupid thing to get upset in the grander scheme of things, but my goodness this is upsetting. Really, the hard core, there till the end people are the enthusiasts, and you just too a big giant **** in thier lap.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by King Moose SS
HHR SS terrible - (HHR was a bad idea to begin with, don't add insult to injury)
I think the HHR SS is a pretty nice piece.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I think the HHR SS is a pretty nice piece.
Me too...
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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GM is so full of good decisions these days, no wonder why they're doing so great.

This should have nothing to do with performance focused cars like the CAMARO and CORVETTE. Performance is their whole purpose! If GM is smart, which they aren't, they'll keep producing performance versions of those two cars while neglecting the sportier versions (SS's) of their regular cars for a while if they must. Making their lineup more boring and cutting down excitement IS NOT gonna help them. Lose your enthusiasts that have passion/loyalty for your product and you'll lose your company for sure.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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This is what happens when they had to sell their soul to the Govt. It's why politicians don't run car companies nor should they. This type of control will be exacted for any car company who drinks from the Washington well. Ford should heed the warning if they ever need to actually take the loan.

GM has a lot bigger issues to work out than the Camaro Z28 or Caddy V series.
Those are projects that need to be reserved for companies making money in good financial times.

There are other options too like the Corvette and if the Camaro can earn its keep. ZR1 and Z28 may not make it or survive but performance could still be had.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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SVT was disbanded and the Mustang got better for it so I wouldn't worry too much. Its also a month before their homework is due. IF GM turns around this division will be back. I am sure this is to look good to Uncle Sa,.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Sad day indeed.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I think the HHR SS is a pretty nice piece.
Really? I can't belive of all the forums I would not expect this one to say the HHR SS is a nice piece. The HHR.... just never was a good lookin piece, it was a eco bland vehicle. I have no idea why they'd even SS badge it, I'd rather they sport it, just like what they did to the Equinox.

If there was a eco car they should of SS's I would say the Malibu, thats a good looking car, and it actually has tradition with the SS badging. Unlike the HHR
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
I think the HHR SS is a pretty nice piece.

HHR SS is bad *** and is certainly worthy of the SS badge!

I'd gladly drive one everyday. (leave the Camaro for the weekends and select days --- since apparently you're soon going to be shot for owning one anyway.)

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by King Moose SS
Really? I can't belive of all the forums I would not expect this one to say the HHR SS is a nice piece. The HHR.... just never was a good lookin piece, it was a eco bland vehicle. I have no idea why they'd even SS badge it, I'd rather they sport it, just like what they did to the Equinox.

If there was a eco car they should of SS's I would say the Malibu, thats a good looking car, and it actually has tradition with the SS badging. Unlike the HHR

If you don't like it's looks that's one thing, but it's a total blast to drive. It's a very well sorted out package. Sorted out by a focused team, which no longer exists.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by King Moose SS
Really? I can't belive of all the forums I would not expect this one to say the HHR SS is a nice piece. The HHR.... just never was a good lookin piece, it was a eco bland vehicle. I have no idea why they'd even SS badge it, I'd rather they sport it, just like what they did to the Equinox.

If there was a eco car they should of SS's I would say the Malibu, thats a good looking car, and it actually has tradition with the SS badging. Unlike the HHR
Agreed with everyone else. The HHR SS is a nice little CUV thing. Stance, power, handling, performance, and ride was spot on.
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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Damn, hopefully this is to just look good for Uncle Sam. I knew there would be some form of consequences for getting the gov't to help out and this looks like one of them. When you're asking for money, its hard to justify to idiot politicians that you need to build stuff they look upon as extra non-money making BS. Hopefully the Corvette and Camaro models will at least survive and the team of engineers will stay on board and eventually be brought back together.

And I also agree with the HHR SS being not bad. It's more than worthy of the SS name as it would tear apart alot of other SS's in Chevrolet history. Maybe not the greatest looking thing, but its a spunky little ride for sure.
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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So what they're basically saying is that they're going to back to the late 80s and 90s era when the Camaro and the Corvette were the only cars with ***** that you could buy. (save the 3 year Impy SS).



Brilliant!
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 03:22 AM
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So what they're basically saying is that they're going to back to the late 80s and 90s era when the Camaro and the Corvette were the only cars with ***** that you could buy. (save the 3 year Impy SS).



Brilliant!
I dunno. My gut instinct is that the performance market would rather have GM focus their limited budget on big V8 Corvette/Camaro/G8/CTS machines, instead of blowing money on things like the Malibu SS or Grand Prix GXP.

Also your mom's V6 Camry has "*****" in the relative sense -- to some extent this reflects the end of the Horsepower Wars where you get into the realm of diminishing returns. (Not to mention that turbo'ed 4s and 6s are going to be standard equipment across the board sooner or later.)

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