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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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GM & Chrysler Merger Back on the Table

Chrysler, GM CEOs: Would Consider Merger As Part Of Loan Deal

December 04, 2008: 03:19 PM EST
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The chief executives of General Motors Corp. (GM) and Chrysler LLC said Thursday they would be open to a merger between their two companies as part of a U.S. federal bailout package.

GM's Rick Wagoner and Chrysler's Robert Nardelli were responding to a question from Sen. Robert Bennett, R-Utah, who suggested that a merger would save the companies billions of dollars. Bennett floated the idea of a merger as a condition for receiving federal aid.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...9_FORTUNE5.htm

And here we thought the merger idea was dead. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this one. For instance, which truck survives, the Ram, the Silverado/Sierra, both?
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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probably the Silverado..

but if you are going to play like that...

Charger or Impala?

Avenger or Malibu?

etc etc
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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That was Bennett's idea. He's just one guy.
I didn't get the impression that any other Senator were thinking along those lines.

The CEOs were just agreeing to every question or scenario that different Senators were laying out.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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GM is truly desperate and even they couldn't make a deal with Chrysler with Cerberus and some banks practically holding a (GMAC) gun to their head. I agree they are trying to look open to anything in the face of Senators with billions of their lifeblood dollars at stake. But this deal would bury both and they know it.

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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GM needs to get rid of their crappy brands; Not gain three more crappy brands.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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one of the other senators was saying that a merger or buyout shouldn't be allowed if there is a bailout
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
probably the Silverado..

but if you are going to play like that...

Charger or Impala?

Avenger or Malibu?

etc etc
That's easy. Say goodbye to Dodge anything and hello to Chevy Caravan.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Hello Jeep, Caravan and sell the ram to Nissan.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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How about Sen. Corker from TN saying to Nardelli:
"You guys KNOW you're not going to be around much longer".

Nardelli was taken aback and a bit angered about that comment.

After watching Corker twice now, there's two conclusions I've drawn about him:
1) he just wants the unions to die
2) he is a d**khead


And Senator Shelby from Alabama. It was clear he didn't read any of the new presentations. When he would ask a question, the CEOs (and I remember Nardelli saying specifically) would respond with a statement like; "if you go to tab 10, page 17, you will see all the info you are asking for". And then after that he was just left sitting there, not saying anything, looking like a dolt.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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These politicians need to be trained to think "American job benefits" when they hear UAW. Then they'll change their view a little.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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I knew this would come up.

True on Corker.

And Shelby is just a hypocrite.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
probably the Silverado..

but if you are going to play like that...

Charger or Impala?

Avenger or Malibu?

etc etc
Easy:

Charger, with the 3.6 DI
Malibu, Avenger is not really avenging anything.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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There is too much capacity in the US right now, and frankly there are far too many makes and models in market segments. Merging Chrysler with another manufacturer wouldn't fix this unless a big axe is taken to the company. In the case of a merger with GM, it probably makes sense to:

1) Retain the minivan and RWD large-car business
2) Replace Hummer with Jeep
3) Eliminate nearly every other Chrysler product line

GM would need to do this while trimming its own fat. That's a lot of work to do while dealing with the current business environment.

From an overall industry standpoint, it makes far more sense to merge Chrysler with a strong player, someone who can make the necessary improvements to the company's product and structure - but if that happens, then the cuts at GM and Ford would simply get larger, because there's not really enough customer demand to supply a strong Big 3 and all the transplants.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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a merger should be on the table but it has to be carefully constructed and well thought out.

It must address alot of issues in order to be beneficial. Which brands, cars, etc survive the change is gonna be so unpredictable.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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All three of the Detroit CEOs, especially Nardelli know that Chrysler is going to die and be merged with somebody; the only real question is "who".

Chrysler's owners don't seem to be willing to put one more penny into the company; they are just hanging around for a buyer; as such, there shouln't be one penny of tax dollars given to Chrysler just to make them look better to a potential partner although the marriage, whoever the other party turns out to be; shouldn't be mandated by Congress.



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