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GM bringing back the 'Super' line of Buicks

Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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GM bringing back the 'Super' line of Buicks

While the whole 'Super' thing is way before my time, it could be a good hint of potentially cool Buicks to come.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D8O03HTO0.htm

General Motors Corp. said Tuesday it is bringing back its "Super" line of Buicks, about five decades after the premium models last were sold, as it makes broader efforts to reinvigorate the 104-year-old brand in the U.S. and grow in China.

Buick General Manager Steve Shannon said the automaker soon will unveil the "Super" line, last used in 1958. For now, he said, it will include versions of the LaCrosse and Lucerne sedans.

"These vehicles will elevate in terms of design, power and performance," Shannon said during a presentation to the Automotive Press Association in Detroit.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Buick shoud remake te Grand National, Just take the camaro plat form, change the body and throw in a turbo V6.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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I think we've been hearing about that for a while, or rumors, I for one can't wait to see what that might mean.
Buick's U.S. sales, however, were down nearly 15 percent in 2006 to about 240,650. GM's effort to cut low-profit sales to rental car companies, as well eliminating aging models such as the LeSabre sedan, accentuated the drop.
I think that was expected with all the changes, dropped models and not everyone loves the new Lacrosse.
GM plans to unveil a new look for the LaCrosse in North America later this month, ahead of the New York Auto Show.
Any Pics????
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Buick shoud remake te Grand National, Just take the camaro plat form, change the body and throw in a turbo V6.
Aint gonna happen.

1) Grand National was a version of the T-type, which was a version of the Buick Regal.

2) Grand National was named after a NASCAR series. Buick decided to break with that image, and hasn't looked back. Pontiac even ran away from that image by getting out of NASCAR a couple of years ago.

3) The Buick Grand National was a high performance LUXURY car, a fact that's completely forgotten today. It was cushy, it was expensive, and it could accelerate like there was no tomorrow. The Grand National cost about as much as an entry level Corvette (the T-type was considerably cheaper). The Grand National GNX was one of the most expensive cars made by GM at the time. Yes, the GNX cost much more than a Corvette.

4) Buick's performance cars are going to be called "Super" in the future. That includes any coupe that Buick may or may not get off of Zeta.

Sorry. No Grand National...
... but you'll probally see a Buick turbo V6 eventually.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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I really hope so, i miss my Riv
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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The Super National then
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 90rocz
Any Pics????
There is one on cheersandgears.com that was taken off a video on youtube. Do a search and you should find it.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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The Super National then
^^^
Be careful what ya wish for....
Any coupes, maybe, in the Super line up???
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM

4) Buick's performance cars are going to be called "Super" in the future. That includes any coupe that Buick may or may not get off of Zeta.
Originally Posted by 90rocz
^^^
Be careful what ya wish for....
Any coupes, maybe, in the Super line up???
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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How bout the Super Grand. lol

I looked for the pics but could not find any??
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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I hate to butt heads with Guy, but I need to clarify a few things...

1) The Grand National was an appearance package on a T-type, and a like equipped T-type versus Grand National was not much more expensive. I think the Grand National package was $995 or less.

2) What is interesting is that the Grand National wasn't SUBSTANTIALLY more expensive than a like-equipped Monte Carlo SS. They barely cracked $20k fully equipped when Corvettes were high $20s. Most Grand National window stickers I've seen on eBay are high teens to slightly over $20...at least a safe $5k below a base Vette from the '85-'87 timeframe.

3) The GNX stickered for $30-32k, slightly above a well-equipped '87 Vette coupe. Granted, dealers charged WAY more than that (I've heard them as high as $60k when new), but still...

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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There is little chance of the Grand National name coming back, but that is just my opinion. They would upset too many enthusiasts if they brought the name back without it being 100% true to its heritage. Regardless, I don't think they could come close to making a legendary car like that twice in a row.

And to add to the facts, the Turbo Buick ECM was the most advanced that GM had made to that point. It was miles ahead of anything else they out there.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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A turbo V6 in a large RWD, all-black coupe from Buick should be called the Grand National.

Perhaps a Zeta Buick model could get the Regal name, and in that way facilitate the return of the GN?
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
A turbo V6 in a large RWD, all-black coupe from Buick should be called the Grand National.
Thinking about it and consulting with an expert on the subject, we believe GM no longer owns the Grand National name anyway. The "GNX" name is another story...

Perhaps a Zeta Buick model could get the Regal name, and in that way facilitate the return of the GN?
I tell ya, if they make a Zeta turbo 6 that was even a mere shadow of what the original Turbo Buick was and still is to this day, I would let go of two of my left body parts, one being my kidney to put one in my garage next to my 2009 Camaro.

But this all might be "pie in the sky" at this point.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
There is little chance of the Grand National name coming back, but that is just my opinion. They would upset too many enthusiasts if they brought the name back without it being 100% true to its heritage. Regardless, I don't think they could come close to making a legendary car like that twice in a row.
What is heritage for the GN at this point? It has had mild and wild V8s and like so with V6s and turbos. So which is the correct heritage? I'm young enough that the only GN I have seen has a turbo. Sure I know they made the V8s, but I wasn't around then.

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