Too bad the food for oil argument will effectively kill those alternative sources.

And the greenies will never allow the electrical grid we need for electric cars.

 

They are the ones pushing for electric and electric cars.... you sure you don't have them confused with the Amish?

 

They are...

But at the same time, they are anti coal. And the ONLY way our economy/grid will support a massive switch will be through coal burning plants. Nuclear is nice, but it'll take YEARS to build those plants.

Wait and see... If (god forbid) we ever do switch to electric appliances as our primary means of conveyance, the bitching will be nonstop. You know, like the 20 years of bitching about CAFE and CO2

 

They are pro wind and solar. Wind cost around the same as coal give or take a penny once you factor in all variables. Solar is expensive but when financed in with new construction it can be practical. Then of course no one seems to be talking about conservation. A kWh saved is as good as a new kWh created.

 

Corporations don't pay taxes. We pay the taxes for the corporations when we buy their product. On paper, it appears a business paid taxes, but they are not going to dip into their savings to pay higher taxes, and not pass some type of increase on to us. More taxes for oil companies = higher gas prices.

 

In NY when all the generators bid. Wind is the highest, coal is the lowest.

 

Yes, but the cost of coal will increase over time. Wind is always free. When it's blowing, that is

 

I was thinking from a new construction stand point. Plus there are hidden social cost to coal, like local health care increases from more people getting asthma and cancer. Acid rain, etc...

 

I would hope so , u put a gallon in that horse its just gonna lean it out so bad it would die where it stands

 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/5781966.html

 

I can remember when I bought my truck fill ups were $38 to $42 on roughly a 32 gallon fill, 34 gallon tank.

Tank before last, filled up at a cost of $127. Sunday I gave big oil the finger, filled up on B100 Biodiesel. Still cost about the same, the bio was $.15 less a gallon, but there's some small justification in not buying their product.

 

That's a lost cause in this country, people have no want or desire for patriotism or pride in country. If you attempt to get in their way for buying cheap imported goods, get ready to be freight trained. Few really care what happens to their fellow Americans. Nor do they have a care in the world if jobs stay here, as long as me, my, I doesn't get affected, its carry on as usual.

 

Keep it up bro. I starting using B20 when I had a diesel USPS delivery truck. I thought I was kinda of pioneering it, come to find out the Postal Service had used 2.2 million gallons of bio in 2006 and planned on using 3+ million gallons in 2007. I left in 07 and I'm not sure how they are doing now but I really hope people start running more bio, especially truckers. Our biggest problem was a lack of pumps. There were only two pumps in the whole city. The Post Office did change over all the diesel in their onsite tanks to biodiesel. The 7-9 ton trucks and tractor trailers all used those tanks. I think its cool that all these USPS trucks are running around town on bio and no one knows about it, no bumper stickers, big ads, just doing the right thing when nobody's looking.
Soy prices aren't killing folks like the corn E85 issue.

 

I think using any food for fuel is rediculous and E85 ethanol should be outlawed unless they can make it from some kind of waste. Just my .02

 

Solar is a joke.

My GF is an architect, solar is not cost effective at all in that field much less for mass.

True that.