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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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So that means a RWD 350HP+ Dodge charger will be out by next spring (2005)? Should a pre production "concept" be shown this autoshow season?
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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What about the NY Auto Show, thats where it is isn't it, in April? The reason I asked about the 6.1 is bcuz I heard that DC got pissed about that pic that got out a few months ago of that motor. Also, heard from some that "claims" he works in DC said that he knew where the 6.1 was going, but refused to say anything, so take it for what it's worth. Also, what ever happened to the rumor of the S/C Hemi going into some car?

Is there any saying of what is going to power the next SRT-10?
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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PVO is now history, it has been replaced by SRT wich will make high performance versions of both Dodge and Chrysler vehicles.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Re: Future vehicles news bits from the competition.

Originally posted by guionM
*Jeep will also be replacing the Wrangler by spring next year.


Well that caught me off guard.

Good post guionM. Lots of good stuff there.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Charger! ...Yummy!

Now that would be a very nice family sedan!

I'm still in love with the '99 Concept....I hope they don't put anything like a magnum front end on it. If they stay close to the '99 then it'll deserve a serious look!
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Wow. Lots of alternatives to the Camaro that GM won't produce for us.

I just hope this horsepower thing doesn't get too out of control... I'd hate to see the regulators come in and squash it...
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
PVO is now history, it has been replaced by SRT wich will make high performance versions of both Dodge and Chrysler vehicles.
Right you are.

As of December 1st, Chrysler Performance Vehicle Operations is now Chrysler Street & Racing Technology Chrysler's counterpart to Ford's Performance Group. I still tend to call them PVO though (I still think "R/T" belongs on Dodges).

Like FPG (http://www.fordperformancegroup.com/) it covers everything from NASCAR, to factory performance parts, to factory add-ons.

Unfortunately unlike FPG, they don't have a separate website.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Future vehicles news bits from the competition.

Originally posted by guionM
*Mercury will also get a rebodied Mustang with automatic transmission and the GT's V8 engine. No word if it's going to be called Cougar or Capri (which will soon be in production in Europe on a FWD chassis).
Consider it more than a hunch...

The next COUGAR will have an IRS system in back, and SLA-type front suspension, basically a variation of the current LS system. (We must hope that they use the same mounting points used in the 05 Mustang so we can buy parts from Ford or junkyards to mod the Stangs.)

Cougar will have a much more refined interior than the Mustang, with less metal and more electronic goodies like GPS and a potential HUD system (concept anyways?). A traction control system may also be present, depending on developmental work and testing. Watch the Five-Hundred and next Linc-LS closely for hints.

I just hope Ford puts ENOUGH difference between the two so that the Cougar doesn't steal Mustang sales or vice-versa. I want to see the Cougar go after high-end sportscar seekers, while Mustang stays true to the economical class with a performance bias.

I think it's cool as heck that Mustang and Cougar become twins again like they did in 1967, only 40 years later.
Cool - that means an intro for the Cougar on it's 40th anniversary!
(Ooops... Did I say that? Um no, I mean... uh-oh.!
Which is the delete key again? Oh crap... )
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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You know, I always liked the cougar concept more than the mustang concept.

I'd love to see a production model in real life!
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
You know, I always liked the cougar concept more than the mustang concept.

I'd love to see a production model in real life!
If you are talking about the Mercury Messenger, the Cougar may look alot different. Last year, J. Mays made a comment that the Messenger had potential, but needed "alot more work".

Apparently the Cougar (it seems that's what it's going to be called) is going to have the Mercury grill, and will share at least Mustangs doors. I believe it will share more than that with Mustang's exterior, but that's only my opinion, not a fact or rumor.

Seems Pony is on the job following this story.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Wrangler going away?

Well, crap I'm gonna have to make some serious money and save. I've always liked the Wrangler, esp the TJ (newset version). Just about the only suv I'd get, since you can actually take 'em off road. Then I'm gonna have to get a charger, or maybe a challenger (hemi either way). Hmm.. maybe the only gm in my future is my current GTA??
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Re: Wrangler going away?

Originally posted by JEDCamino


Well that caught me off guard.
Originally posted by Red89GTA
Well, crap I'm gonna have to make some serious money and save. I've always liked the Wrangler, esp the TJ (newset version). Just about the only suv I'd get, since you can actually take 'em off road. Then I'm gonna have to get a charger, or maybe a challenger (hemi either way). Hmm.. maybe the only gm in my future is my current GTA??
I suspect it's going to be a restyle just like the last Wrangler update was.

There will also be some entry level Jeep in the mix as well that I forgot to mention. Think RAV-4 in size.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by guionM
If you are talking about the Mercury Messenger, the Cougar may look alot different. Last year, J. Mays made a comment that the Messenger had potential, but needed "alot more work".

Apparently the Cougar (it seems that's what it's going to be called) is going to have the Mercury grill, and will share at least Mustangs doors. I believe it will share more than that with Mustang's exterior, but that's only my opinion, not a fact or rumor.

Seems Pony is on the job following this story.
Let's just say that I know who is making the glass and numerous interior and exterior parts for many of these new cars these days, as well as the e-coat, primers, paints, and clearcoats they are using. Colored glass is becoming a styling rage, and the push to new interior materials has been very beneficial to my company. We had components in EVERY vehicle at NAIAS, and we were one of the top 5 sponsors of the show.

Our R&D facility displays many vehicle parts. Engine parts, intakes, body parts, spoilers, wheels, you name it. It's pretty cool, and it's also pretty secure!

Example:
Z284ever's story... has a nice comment about a product made on my equipment...
"At the other end of the economic scale, the $140,000 Ford GT boasts an industry-first use of Azdel SuperLite, a glass fiber/polypropylene compound. Normally used to make roof liners, the GE Plastics product will form the entire interior of Ford’s new 500-hp supercar."
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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Re: Re: Future vehicles news bits from the competition.

Originally posted by ProudPony
Consider it more than a hunch...

The next COUGAR will have an IRS system in back, and SLA-type front suspension, basically a variation of the current LS system. (We must hope that they use the same mounting points used in the 05 Mustang so we can buy parts from Ford or junkyards to mod the Stangs.)

Cougar will have a much more refined interior than the Mustang, with less metal and more electronic goodies like GPS and a potential HUD system (concept anyways?). A traction control system may also be present, depending on developmental work and testing. Watch the Five-Hundred and next Linc-LS closely for hints.

I just hope Ford puts ENOUGH difference between the two so that the Cougar doesn't steal Mustang sales or vice-versa. I want to see the Cougar go after high-end sportscar seekers, while Mustang stays true to the economical class with a performance bias.

I think it's cool as heck that Mustang and Cougar become twins again like they did in 1967, only 40 years later.
Cool - that means an intro for the Cougar on it's 40th anniversary!
(Ooops... Did I say that? Um no, I mean... uh-oh.!
Which is the delete key again? Oh crap... )
Sounds like Cougar's direct competition might be the Buick Zeta coupe. Proud, any "hunches" on Cougar's dimensions...will it share those with Mustang?
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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That would be a neat sub-rivalry next to the Mustang vs Camaro wars. A V8 RWD Buick coupe going up against a V8 RWD Mercury coupe, good stuff .



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