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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Ford's likely GT replacement to be shown August 12.

Ford's evolution of the Cobra concept will be shown down the road from me in Camrel August 15th. I'll try and get some pictures.

The car seems slated to come out in 2007 after the Ford GT runs it's course.
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=07884805

Anyone want to guess how much Ford GTs will appriciate once production stops?
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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"droolski"?
ford is getting more intelligent everyday

i would hope they would do something totally different with the cobra
i saw it at naias and it was not too appealing, atleast to me
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Yeah, I hope it's more stylish than the Cobra concept. It just didn't have any 'emotion' or style to it IMO. It looked 'designed', not styled with any passion.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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From what I understand, the "Cobra" is pretty much a sure thing. I'm really happy to see Ford actually going after the Viper now. The GT IMO was the American exotic poised to compete with the rest of the world and show American know how. Now they are going to produce an American roadster worthy of competing with the Viper.

The question I have to ask is: where is GM in all of this? With their resources why can't they compete in this market? Don't they get tired of saying, "Well, we have the Corvette!"??? While the Z06 that's coming out will be nice, I think the rest of America wonders why GM isn't building something more unique and inspiring. JMHO.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Quote - "The Cobra concept shown in Detroit had a 6.4-liter aluminum 605-hp V10 engine. Ford sources described it as a Dodge Viper fighter that could be priced around $80,000. "

I'd like to know what their source was for that quote!?!?

I've said/known for almost a year now that the GT was going to die in '07 for various reasons, and Ford wants a replacement. Shelby Cobra is a logical answer. But to say Viper-level performance now, and $80k sales tag?
I'm doubtin' it.

Expect to see a Shelby Cobra out in '07 though... and it will be a hot performer!
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I actually really liked the looks of the Cobra concept.

Hope the redesign looks even better. 604hp 6.4L v10 and a price tag of 80k is almost too good to be true. I just hope it comes with the N/A v10 and not the blown 5.4. Nothing against the 5.4 (lovely motor), but it is too heavy. GT probably would have been 200+lbs lighter if they'd stuck the 7.0 v10 from the Ford 427 concept. I'd like to see this Cobra weigh in at 3,000lbs MAX, and preferably in the 2700-2900lb range.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaperTarget
The question I have to ask is: where is GM in all of this? With their resources why can't they compete in this market? Don't they get tired of saying, "Well, we have the Corvette!"??? While the Z06 that's coming out will be nice, I think the rest of America wonders why GM isn't building something more unique and inspiring. JMHO.
What, the upcoming Malibu Maxx SS doesn't get you on the dge of your seat?

Yeah, me neither. I wonder the same thing. There seems to be some residual stodgyness at GM. But, the LS2 powered SSR might signal a change in the winds......
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PaperTarget
The question I have to ask is: where is GM in all of this? With their resources why can't they compete in this market? Don't they get tired of saying, "Well, we have the Corvette!"??? While the Z06 that's coming out will be nice, I think the rest of America wonders why GM isn't building something more unique and inspiring. JMHO.
Time for Cadillac to step upto the plate and build a real exotic supercar. If not the cien, another high performance 2 seater with a 600+hp v12.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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If the Cobra is a go after the GT runs its course they better send it back for some serious re-style. As someone else said, that design just had no emotion in it at all. In fact, it was borderline ugly IMO.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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What, the upcoming Malibu Maxx SS doesn't get you on the dge of your seat?

Yeah, me neither. I wonder the same thing. There seems to be some residual stodgyness at GM. But, the LS2 powered SSR might signal a change in the winds......
I actually like the SSR, but it's overpriced and VERY HEAVY But then again, it's a cruiser and not a racer and pretty much perfect for its purpose of being.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Re: Ford's likely GT replacement to be shown August 12.

Originally Posted by PaperTarget
The question I have to ask is: where is GM in all of this? With their resources why can't they compete in this market? Don't they get tired of saying, "Well, we have the Corvette!"??? While the Z06 that's coming out will be nice, I think the rest of America wonders why GM isn't building something more unique and inspiring. JMHO.

Yes, why isnt GM building a 100k super car? What are they, stupid! What the hell are they doing, building cars that 95% of the population can drive?!?! Stupid GM, how do you expect to make any money if your not gunna build a super car?!?!

In other news, The new Z06 sounds to be quite the car, with the Blue Devil name popping up every once and a while, but of course...this is GM...they wouldnt build a car like that.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Ford's likely GT replacement to be shown August 12.

Originally Posted by RiceEating5.0
I actually really liked the looks of the Cobra concept.

Hope the redesign looks even better. 604hp 6.4L v10 and a price tag of 80k is almost too good to be true. I just hope it comes with the N/A v10 and not the blown 5.4. Nothing against the 5.4 (lovely motor), but it is too heavy. GT probably would have been 200+lbs lighter if they'd stuck the 7.0 v10 from the Ford 427 concept. I'd like to see this Cobra weigh in at 3,000lbs MAX, and preferably in the 2700-2900lb range.
Actually, if you follow the Ferrari forums (yes I do......... and most of those guys love the GT, and would like to buy one) at all, there is a person there who seems to have some inside knowledge on the GT. Word from him is to expect the V10 in the GT's last production year (we don't know if it will be model year 2006.5, or 2007).

I guess we will see.

It would make sense however, as the new SVT Mustang (whatever name they give it) is supposed to get a version of the existing GT engine........ as is the Lightning.

It is a funny observation of mine, that many people who CAN purchase the Ford GT, without selling body parts or children, seem to like it the best.............. as a whole (meaning there are some of them that don't like it also)............. vs those who don't have a dream of buying one (meaning more of those that can't afford it diss it). It really is interesting.

Another interesting thing............ there are those in the Viper community who feel that DCX does not intent to continue the Viper much longer........... because it is outside the "marketing plan" of where they have Chrysler/Dodge. Also, there seems to be some anger in the Mercedes camp that the Viper outperforms even their very high priced "exclusive" cars.

This will be one worth watching.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Ford's likely GT replacement to be shown August 12.

Originally Posted by PaperTarget
The question I have to ask is: where is GM in all of this? With their resources why can't they compete in this market? Don't they get tired of saying, "Well, we have the Corvette!"??? While the Z06 that's coming out will be nice, I think the rest of America wonders why GM isn't building something more unique and inspiring. JMHO.
On the contrary I've always wondered where Ford's answer to the Corvette has been for the last darn near 50 years. Perhaps they feel the Corvette name and lineage is too tough to crack in the ~$45k sports car segment...either way, from a purely business standpoint I absolutely agree with how GM is looking to play "supercar" wars right now. High-end levels of Corvette are going to be much more profitable given a comparable price point vs. anything Ford or Dodge comes up with because it is based on an existing volume platform, not a ground up one-of-a-kind piece. You may say "yeah but it's just a Corvette", but I can promise you if the Blue Devil becomes a production reality there are enough well-off Corvette enthusiasts who will pick one up, even over a GT/Cobra or Viper. Ford would be doing well just to get those kinds of guys to even consider their product.

That said, would a production Cien be cool? You betcha!
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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On the contrary I've always wondered where Ford's answer to the Corvette has been for the last darn near 50 years.
That makes two of us. While I think the Mustang Cobra is a real butt kicker, Ford needs a different type of car to go after Corvette. I often thought of them bringing back the Cobra roadster for this duty, but that car appears to be going after a bigger target. It may be possible that Ford doesn't think they can compete in that segment, but I have to wonder. How hard would it really be? Personally I think they could do it, but if they did, they better do it right the first time.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 94LightningGal
Actually, if you follow the Ferrari forums (yes I do......... and most of those guys love the GT, and would like to buy one) at all, there is a person there who seems to have some inside knowledge on the GT. Word from him is to expect the V10 in the GT's last production year (we don't know if it will be model year 2006.5, or 2007).

I've been hearing that for sometime now, and i hope it is true. It would give the GT an even better power:weight ratio.

Btw: I do post on Ferrarichat. Sn is Vibrant_5oh. I know they love the GT, because some there are seriously considering purchasing it even though the markups have been a turn-off to many others.

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