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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Ford May Win Pontiac Buyers as GM Abandons Brand

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July 15 (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co., the only major U.S. automaker to avoid bankruptcy, may be able to snag buyers as General Motors Co. ends production of the Pontiac brand this month, according to a survey.

Ford was the choice of 38 percent of consumers interested in Pontiac models, CNW Marketing Research found in a June survey of 1,283 of the GM brand’s potential buyers. GM was favored by 33 percent in the survey, conducted before the Detroit-based automaker finished its bankruptcy reorganization.

The results suggest possible gains for Ford, the second- biggest U.S. automaker, after GM pared its U.S. brands to four from eight. Retaining Pontiac buyers is pivotal to GM’s strategy to capture 18.5 percent of the auto market in the U.S., where the remaining marques had 16.5 percent of sales in June.

“Ford has really started to gain some attention,” CNW President Art Spinella said in an interview yesterday from Bandon, Oregon, where the auto-research company is based. “Pontiac owners have gotten older, and they’re looking at Ford’s mainstream vehicles, like the Taurus and the Fusion.”

U.S. market share for Dearborn, Michigan-based Ford last month was 17.2 percent, excluding the Volvo car line that’s being sold. Ford is benefiting from positive reviews and quality scores on new models like the Fusion sedan as well as favorable consumer sentiment for not taking a bailout, Spinella said.

Ford’s market share may reach almost 18 percent as “a result of planning as well as the fortuitous stress” at GM and Chrysler Group LLC, which both exited bankruptcy in the past five weeks, John Murphy, an analyst at Bank of America Corp.’s Merrill Lynch unit, wrote in a report today. Murphy, based in New York, rates Ford a “buy.”

‘Incremental Traffic’

Ford marketing chief Jim Farley said the automaker is gaining buyers as “other dealers and brands are going away.”

“We are seeing incremental traffic,” Farley said yesterday in an interview. “We’ve learned that corporate reputation can be a really big driver to get people to shop your brand. A lot of people like how we’re fixing Ford on our own.”

GM has been the largest U.S. automaker by sales since 1931, a title imperiled by the company’s shrinkage during restructuring. Spinella said “the trend lines favor” Ford eclipsing GM by year’s end or in the first quarter of 2010.

GM began offering “loyalty” rebates this month to customers that include discounts on Pontiac models of as much as $2,750, said John McDonald, a spokesman.

“Pontiac is going to be around for many months to come, and we have time to work with the loyal Pontiac customer base,” McDonald said in an e-mail. GM’s brands now are Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC.

Declining Sales

Pontiac sales fell 42 percent from a year earlier in 2009’s first half, to 88,794 vehicles, according to Autodata Corp., a Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey, research firm. For all of last year, Pontiac sold 267,348 vehicles, a 25 percent decline from 2007.

The Pontiac line is mostly cars, ranging from the $14,335 G3 to the $37,610 G8. Pontiac’s sporty features and relatively low prices appeal to blue-collar women, said John Wolkonowicz, auto analyst at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts.

GM, which completed its Chapter 11 restructuring on July 10, told the federal government it could be profitable with 18.5 percent of a U.S. auto market of 10 million vehicle sales. This month’s industrywide sales rate “seems” to be less than that figure, Chief Executive Officer Fritz Henderson said yesterday.

Cash-for-Clunkers Effect

Ford showroom traffic has risen by 10 percent to 20 percent since Congress passed a so-called cash-for-clunkers sales incentive last month, Farley said. He said sales began slowly this month as dealers and consumers awaited the July 24 start of the program, which gives buyers trade-in vouchers of as much as to $4,500 for an old auto.

“It has been a slow start to the month because of the clunkers program,” Farley said. “We’ll see it accelerate after the 24th.”

CNW’s survey found that 26 percent of potential Pontiac buyers would buy a car from a non-U.S. automaker. South Korea’s Hyundai Motor Co. was the brand cited most often by these customers, Spinella said.

GM failed to hold on to many Oldsmobile buyers after killing that brand in 2004, the company’s sales chief, Mark LaNeve, told reporters on a July 1 conference call.

This time will be different, he said, because GM will use sophisticated electronic marketing techniques to target Pontiac owners and is expanding other model lines to offer alternatives.

‘Better Process’

“We didn’t do as well as we would have liked on retaining Oldsmobile customers,” LaNeve said. “We’ve got a better process now because of information technology” such as targeted e-mail promotions. GM has said its Pontiac inventory may be gone by the end of March.

With CNW’s survey conducted while GM was still in bankruptcy, consumers’ perceptions also might have been colored, McDonald said.

“It would be natural to lean a bit negative until the outcome of the court process was certain, and there was a fair amount of negative press in the market at the time of the survey,” he said.

Ford rose 21 cents, or 3.6 percent, to $6.05 at 4:15 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. The shares have more than doubled this year.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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I would say this is quite possible.

I've only owned a couple of Fords in my life but next time I'm in the market for a brand new vehicle Ford is going to be on the top of my short list.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66Wanderer
I would say this is quite possible.

I've only owned a couple of Fords in my life but next time I'm in the market for a brand new vehicle Ford is going to be on the top of my short list.
x2

Ive owned a couple Chryslers, a whole slew of GM's(Camaro, Trans Am, Blazer, GTO, Grand Prix) and now ive got an 08 F-150. Ive definitely gotta say, before this I thought Fords were junk...unreliable, and filled with hard plastic. But this truck hasnt given me one problem to name of and is amazing in our snowy Michigan winters.

Ill probably be buying Ford from here on out. I always loved Pontiacs because they were sporty and had cooler interiors than the Chevys. My mom just got a new Fusion and not only does the thing look sweet, the interior is very nice as well for an $18k car. At least theres one good OEM out there right now to choose from
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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I believe they will. In my mind, Fusion > Malibu, Taurus is WAY > Impala, on the sportiness scale.

If a 2 door Fusion was made, and I was in the market today, it'd be a done deal, for sure...I wouldn't even look at another car.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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I almost got a fusion over my G6, if the b-pillar was different, problaby would have.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Interesting. I knew that Ford's market share and GM's were getting close but this is closer than I thought.

No blame on Ford they were best prepared for this recession and kept developing new and attractive product. So they should be rewarded with some sales increase especially at the expense of their defunct rivals. That's just business.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MustangEater82
I almost got a fusion over my G6, if the b-pillar was different, problaby would have.
whats wrong with the b-pillar?
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason E
Taurus is WAY > Impala, on the sportiness scale.
Latest Car & Driver said that the new Taurus is completely lacking in sportiness.

Not that Impala isn't, but I don't think that leaves room for "WAY >".
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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So called this.

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Either way I assume alot of Pontiac fans will buy Ford from now on which is good for Ford, hoping to get a new SHO myself sometime.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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I think the Fusion is a sharp, sharp car. You can even get it with a stick.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Better to buy Ford or Chrysler than Eurotrash or Japanese...

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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please, gm abandoned them years ago when they started bringing in holdens and rebadging half their chevys.
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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If the headline is true (which I take with a grain of salt) there won't be too many customers heading the way of Ford.
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Alan Mullaly = CEO of the Year!

Fritz..........you paying attent...wait who am I kidding?
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Latest Car & Driver said that the new Taurus is completely lacking in sportiness.

Not that Impala isn't, but I don't think that leaves room for "WAY >".
Maybe he's talking about the styling or the inclusion of the SHO model.



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