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Old May 27, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Ford to get 6.2L V8

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Old May 27, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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In a truck that's already 400 lbs heavier than the one it replaced, adding in a 6.2L v-in the mix is going to get great MPG

I imagine this is purely for bragging rights, they won't sell very well as long as gas stays around $2/gal national avg.
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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then why are they continuing the development of the v-10
that don't make no sense
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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then why are they continuing the development of the v-10
that don't make no sense
Agreed. A similar displacement V10 will get better MPG and actually have lower emissions due to smaller cylinder bores.
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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In a truck that's already 400 lbs heavier than the one it replaced, adding in a 6.2L v-in the mix is going to get great MPG

Well, the truck stuff is fine and dandy......but I'm wondering what impact this "Hurricane" motor will have on Mustang.
Old May 27, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
Agreed. A similar displacement V10 will get better MPG and actually have lower emissions due to smaller cylinder bores.
i would just like to add in that i thought ford was developing a v-10 for the shelby cobra. so now how many new blocks do you have in the pipeline?

new mustang v-8
shelby cobra v-10
this truck v-8 6.2L
and probably another stang engine for the cobra (unless they supercharge the 6.2L up above)

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Old May 27, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
In a truck that's already 400 lbs heavier than the one it replaced, adding in a 6.2L v-in the mix is going to get great MPG

I imagine this is purely for bragging rights, they won't sell very well as long as gas stays around $2/gal national avg.
Why not? How many v8's did/does GM have for their truck line?

4.8L gas
5.3L gas
6.0L gas
8.1L gas
6.6L Diesel

That's 5 v8 engines. Which gives us a total of 6 total engines if you count the base 4.2L v6. That 1 engine more than Fords v6, 4.6L, 5.4, 6.8 v10, and powerstroke lineup. This new 6.2L will fit in nicely.

I don't think people who buy 5,000lb trucks are too concerned with fuel economy. Those that are will opt for the base or standard engine. This 6.2L will probably only be an option, or be standard on the higher up (2500 or 3500 series) heavy duty's.
Despite being 400lbs heavier, and being up by 40 horses in comparison to the previous 5.4L truck it replaces, the new 5.4L F-150 still gets the same fuel mileage. Weight may have gone up, but so has engine efficiency and tech.

Why don't you think they'll sell well? The optional 5.7L Hemi has been a runaway success for the Ram. Last i've heard, over 50% of Rams had this option. Why so popular when a more fuel efficient and smaller 4.7L is standard at no extra cost? 2 dollars/gallon gas hasn't held it back.

I think it is a good move on their part. The new 5.4L is nice, but it isn't comparable to the current sub-340hp 6.0L GM offering or the 5.7L Chrysler Hemi.

This engine will also make a nice addition to the SUV lineup. This is exactly what the Navigator needs. The Excalade has been killing it in the hp department, and the new 5.4L 3 valve is no more powerful than the navis older 5.4L 4valver.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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But 3 of those 6 GM v-8s have the same architecture...

Maybe this 6.2 is based on the mod motor but I got the impression it would be a totally new one. I'm not sure the Mod has that much displacement potential anyway.

The hemi is 5.7. This ford motor is .5 liters bigger. This truck is going to get like 11 city 15 highway if its lucky, unless they get a 5 speed auto stuck behind it which would help.

The Hemi's been hot, yes, but gas only recently went to $2/gal and it IS affecting consumer purchasing. Big SUV sales are off 40% and lot inventories are growing.

Yes such a truck would sell, but how well? I am just saying the market for this thing has to be considered smaller now than it was when gas was $1.60. And I think we're going to see gas at this level for at least a couple of years if not the rest of the decade.

Not entirely a bad thing...at this price level there is incentive for the market to bring alternatives to fruition and ultimately lessen the growth in our demand for oil.

But I'd say right now, at the moment, unless you can get kick butt fuel ecomony out of it, right now is the wrong time to be announcing large displacement V8s as some sort of badge of honor. Would be different in a sports car that weight half what the truck does and has better gearing.
Old May 27, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Why don't you think they'll sell well? The optional 5.7L Hemi has been a runaway success for the Ram. Last i've heard, over 50% of Rams had this option. Why so popular when a more fuel efficient and smaller 4.7L is standard at no extra cost? 2 dollars/gallon gas hasn't held it back.
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Just a hunch here but maybe because the 4.7L V8 doesn't have the word HEMI on the side of it?

The whole Hemi thing is nothing more than a smoke and mirrors marketing gimmick as we all know, the new motor is certainly not a Hemi in the traditional sense.
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Well, whatever the truck thing is, I'm thinking along the lines of.....


BOSS 6.2
Old May 27, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
But I'd say right now, at the moment, unless you can get kick butt fuel ecomony out of it, right now is the wrong time to be announcing large displacement V8s as some sort of badge of honor. Would be different in a sports car that weight half what the truck does and has better gearing.
I think at these gas prices "hybrid" on the side of a Silverado is going to be a more popular badge.


I wonder what the HP will be on this 6.2L The 3v 5.4L is 300HP and the 3v 6.8L V10 will be 355HP, I would think the 6.2L would fall somewhere in between.

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4.8L gas
5.3L gas
6.0L gas
8.1L gas
6.6L Diesel
Rumor has Chevy dropping the 4.8L from the lineup soon
Old May 27, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Rumor has Chevy dropping the 4.8L from the lineup soon
It should get "dropped" right into the Colorado IMO...
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Originally posted by MissedShift
It should get "dropped" right into the Colorado IMO...

Agreed
Old May 27, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Z28x
Rumor has Chevy dropping the 4.8L from the lineup soon
Isn't it rated @ 285hp? Pretty close to the 5.3's 295hp. I can see why they'd drop it for the larger motor since the output's pretty close.

Chris, i see your point. Guess we'll have to wait and see. If offered as an option, those who opt for it will have to deal with the hit they'll take at the pumps.

Personally, i'd like to see this engine make its way into the Navigator, and highly tuned version in some special varient of the mustang. The navi's getting outgunned by smaller Durangos now. Fords been playing the small displacement game a bit too long now. Too bad they're deciding to up the ante when fuel prices are at an all time high.
Old May 27, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Z28x
I wonder what the HP will be on this 6.2L The 3v 5.4L is 300HP and the 3v 6.8L V10 will be 355HP, I would think the 6.2L would fall somewhere in between.
Actually, I think TQ would be the better comparison on truck motors since that's what they're really tuned for. A 6.2L should be rather torquey (is that a word???).



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