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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Fleets accounted for 90 per of the previous Commodore wagon sales, but Holden is determined to spread the appeal of the new wagon beyond company car barriers.



Hrm...good luck to Holden trying to turn a fleet queen into a main line success.
I really dont think Lutz was dumb to not bring this over.
IMO, sent it to Europe instead with the 2.9 diesel, badge it as an opel, bring some 3.6/6spd auto/manual sedans along with teh V8 models as well, and have Opel/Vaux's flagship luxury sedan.
Maybe someone knowledgeable can explain this, but my impression was that a "fleet" sale in Australia was something more like a lease than a rental car.
Old Jul 14, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Would have been a great competitor for the Magnum...........wait they are not amking that anymore............ Might be a reason for that.
Old Jul 14, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rlchv70
Who really needs all that cargo room?

I have an 04 GTO. They have been criticized for their small truck. However, I can fit a week's worth of groceries for a family of 4 in it.

My wife has a Rendezvous with the 3rd row of seats. We use it all the time! It's nice if grandma and grandpa are in town, we can take just one car. If my kids invite friends over, we need the extra room.

I think it would sell much better if it had a small jump seat in the back that 2 kids could fit in.

Minivans originally replaced the wagon. SUVs then replaced the minivan. The only way that we can go full circle is for the wagons to be able to seat more than 5.
Well, apparently you need all the cargo room since you have a Rendezvous. I have seen a GTO trunk. It is small, but you could easily get groceries in there. You could probably get a weeks worth of groceries into a Honda fit.

People will need the cargo space for trips to home depot, the mall, or whatever else they are going to get. You don't need the room everyday, but you will need it. I think people will start looking to wagons again for this, maybe minivans. Both types of vehicles are currently vehicles my wife would have a hard time buying. The stigma attached to them are not good, but when it becomes a necessity, I see them getting more attention.
Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Plague
Well, apparently you need all the cargo room since you have a Rendezvous.
No, I need the passenger space. My point was that I have all of the cargo capacity I need in the GTO.
Old Jul 15, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rlchv70
No, I need the passenger space. My point was that I have all of the cargo capacity I need in the GTO.
Maybe you have all the capacity you need in the GTO because you usually don't take the kids in it. I have a 4 month year old son, that when I have to take him somewhere for a weekend trip, requires more cargo room than I do. We don't use my car for it, we use my wife's Mazda6 5 door. We fill it up completely when we go on longer trips.
Old Jul 15, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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The last 4 cars my mom has owned have been station wagons.
None have been el caminos....
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