First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
01-12-2006, 11:55 PM
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First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Not to bad if the final vehicles look anything like the sketches. I wonder if VW will have a problem with Bricklin if he uses the 'VV' as his emblem. On the otherhand Hyundai hasn't had a problem with Honda with putting a big "H" on their cars.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/01/...ers/#more-1350
Visionary Vehicles outlines plan to undercut luxury carmakers
Visionary Vehicles — the U.S. wing of the Chinese automaker also known as Chery — has released sketches of its forthcoming crossover and sedan. VV is being imported to North America by U.S. businessman Malcolm Bricklin. Recently, Bricklin said his company had changed its plan from importing ultra-low-cost vehicles, to instead offering Chinese luxury cars at prices much lower than their Japanese and European competitors. The vehicles will include: a four-door sedan aimed at the Audi A4, Mercedes C320, and Volvo S60, for a price of $19,000; A two-door coupe aimed at the Mercedes CLK 320 and BMW 330Ci for $25,000; A SUV aimed at the BMW X3, MB M320, and Lexus RX330 for $19,000; A crossover with a V6 engine for $19,000, and a retractable hardtop convertible (shown in April) designed with Pininfarina aimed at the Mercedes SLK (which starts at $47,000) for $19,000. Photos after the jump…
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/01/...ers/#more-1350
Visionary Vehicles outlines plan to undercut luxury carmakers
Visionary Vehicles — the U.S. wing of the Chinese automaker also known as Chery — has released sketches of its forthcoming crossover and sedan. VV is being imported to North America by U.S. businessman Malcolm Bricklin. Recently, Bricklin said his company had changed its plan from importing ultra-low-cost vehicles, to instead offering Chinese luxury cars at prices much lower than their Japanese and European competitors. The vehicles will include: a four-door sedan aimed at the Audi A4, Mercedes C320, and Volvo S60, for a price of $19,000; A two-door coupe aimed at the Mercedes CLK 320 and BMW 330Ci for $25,000; A SUV aimed at the BMW X3, MB M320, and Lexus RX330 for $19,000; A crossover with a V6 engine for $19,000, and a retractable hardtop convertible (shown in April) designed with Pininfarina aimed at the Mercedes SLK (which starts at $47,000) for $19,000. Photos after the jump…
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01-13-2006, 06:58 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Hmmm. If they can really pull this off, provide great styling, good quality and a price like is mentioned. I believe many an auto maker will have problems. Do not underestimate the Chinese. We did that with Japan and see what happened.
01-13-2006, 07:11 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
They don't look very distinct as I can see a lot of other automakers designs in there, but, they don't look bad or goofy like the Korean vehicles, especially when they first came out.
01-13-2006, 07:53 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
The car looks like a combination of an audi, mitsu, and a G6 to me. Very G6 like tail lights.
The SUV looks like another one from another manufacturer that I can't quite place at the moment.
None of that is surprising as Chery has been sued on a few occasions for making deliberate knock offs of others work in China.
The SUV looks like another one from another manufacturer that I can't quite place at the moment.
None of that is surprising as Chery has been sued on a few occasions for making deliberate knock offs of others work in China.
01-13-2006, 08:06 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
I am interested in hearing engine specifications such as fuel mileage and power produced, as well as weight of the vehicles.
I think the designs look great, and I hope the production versions look as close as possible.
Hyundai's minivan, Sedona (I think) turned out to be quite a porker. Daewoo sells its cars under Chevy brand here in Canada, but their engines have poor fuel economy with modest output.
I think the designs look great, and I hope the production versions look as close as possible.
Hyundai's minivan, Sedona (I think) turned out to be quite a porker. Daewoo sells its cars under Chevy brand here in Canada, but their engines have poor fuel economy with modest output.
01-13-2006, 08:44 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Originally Posted by Brandon_Lutz
The car looks like a combination of an audi, mitsu, and a G6 to me. Very G6 like tail lights.
The SUV looks like another one from another manufacturer that I can't quite place at the moment.
None of that is surprising as Chery has been sued on a few occasions for making deliberate knock offs of others work in China.
The SUV looks like another one from another manufacturer that I can't quite place at the moment.
None of that is surprising as Chery has been sued on a few occasions for making deliberate knock offs of others work in China.
All cars are copies of other cars nowadays as far as I'm concerned.
01-13-2006, 09:11 AM
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Sorry Mr. Bricklin, but I hope your little venture fails miserably.
Competition improves the breed, sure. But there is no shortage of competition in today's auto market.
And I don't think the Chinese play fair (e.g. copying a car almost to a "t" and calling it "Chery" instead of "Chevy"). Of course, GM and all the other automakers building plants there (necessary to build vehicles to sell in that market, and it's becoming an important market to be in) are just helping them along by showing them how it is done. Great.
Competition improves the breed, sure. But there is no shortage of competition in today's auto market.
And I don't think the Chinese play fair (e.g. copying a car almost to a "t" and calling it "Chery" instead of "Chevy"). Of course, GM and all the other automakers building plants there (necessary to build vehicles to sell in that market, and it's becoming an important market to be in) are just helping them along by showing them how it is done. Great.
01-13-2006, 09:24 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Those are nice 'drawings'. Notice the VV on the license plate? A quick glance and you could mistake it for VW....coincidence?
I hope they fail miserably.
I hope they fail miserably.
01-13-2006, 09:48 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Sorry Mr. Bricklin, but I hope your little venture fails miserably.
Competition improves the breed, sure. But there is no shortage of competition in today's auto market.
And I don't think the Chinese play fair (e.g. copying a car almost to a "t" and calling it "Chery" instead of "Chevy"). Of course, GM and all the other automakers building plants there (necessary to build vehicles to sell in that market, and it's becoming an important market to be in) are just helping them along by showing them how it is done. Great.
Competition improves the breed, sure. But there is no shortage of competition in today's auto market.
And I don't think the Chinese play fair (e.g. copying a car almost to a "t" and calling it "Chery" instead of "Chevy"). Of course, GM and all the other automakers building plants there (necessary to build vehicles to sell in that market, and it's becoming an important market to be in) are just helping them along by showing them how it is done. Great.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
I hope they fail miserably.
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Me too.
01-13-2006, 10:11 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Do I sense a pattern here?
i'm with you guys
all i see in those drawings are a Passat and a Montero.
01-13-2006, 10:18 AM
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Re: First concept drawings of Bricklin's Chinese-made Visionary Vehicles
Originally Posted by NikiVee
All cars are copies of other cars nowadays as far as I'm concerned.
Chevy sued Chery recently for a direct copy of one of their small cars they sell in china. It was lick for lick identical on the interior and exterior. Another Chinese car company I remember copied a Jeep Grand Cherokee sheet metal item for sheetmetal item.
Also I found a link a while back a "Chinese Hummer" It was a direct carbon copy of the H1 Military Hummer except for the grill and the company badge on it. The chinese car companies show a tendancy not to copy certain traits, but rather copy an entire car.
01-13-2006, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon_Lutz
The chinese car companies show a tendancy not to copy certain traits, but rather copy an entire car.
Eventually they (Chinese) will start creating their own uniquely styled vehicles like Japan does today, but in the process they will undermine the industry with an unfair cost advantage. Their unfair advantage has alot to do with their artificially deflated currency, cheap slave-like labor, government subsidized corporations, and etc.