Fear of owning a car made by a defunct car company...
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i remember seeing in 03 two ads in the local paper. one was for a fairly loaded brand new at the time 2002 V6 camaro. the price was 31k. couple pages later there was an ad for essentially the same equipment in a 03 mustang GT. price? 28k.
same price they are not.
the only thing the camaro had more was t-tops.
same price they are not.
the only thing the camaro had more was t-tops.
MSRP for a base 2002 Mustang GT hardtop in 2002 was $22,965.
.....Nuff said.
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Wasn't the base GT 05-09 cars about 25k?
Ford wasn't kidding when they said the S-197 was very profitable looking at the difference in price between the base 02 and my 02 compared to the base S-197 to my 07
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GM cannot fear people into buying thier cars. They cannot make a fear campaign again. That is a sign of weakness and it shines through. It scares people away from GM because we have the ability to sense weakness.
How can GM regain strength? Let me ask you this, what do women look for in a man?
Confidence.
Toyota is bleeding money, but are they scaring anyone?
Is Honda making commercials about millions of people losing thier jobs?
GM should stand there and show that they will be there for you. They need to come out and talk about how they will be there, they will be here for everyone, beyond making cars, but there for communities across the US, across the world.
GM needs to show people that they are not going away, they are not going to die and leave people with more problems.
Talk about the great cars, dont downplay others.
GM has a marketing and PR problem. It needs to be fixed asap. Everyone from LaNeve down need to be shown the door. These are the times where your strengths show through, and GM couldnt market the cure for cancer.
How can GM regain strength? Let me ask you this, what do women look for in a man?
Confidence.
Toyota is bleeding money, but are they scaring anyone?
Is Honda making commercials about millions of people losing thier jobs?
GM should stand there and show that they will be there for you. They need to come out and talk about how they will be there, they will be here for everyone, beyond making cars, but there for communities across the US, across the world.
GM needs to show people that they are not going away, they are not going to die and leave people with more problems.
Talk about the great cars, dont downplay others.
GM has a marketing and PR problem. It needs to be fixed asap. Everyone from LaNeve down need to be shown the door. These are the times where your strengths show through, and GM couldnt market the cure for cancer.
All the whistling in the dark, and PR polishing doesn't cover for terrible planning and a flawed & reactionary management system.
People catch on.... even if it takes years.
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See Guy's quote above -- a base Z28 MSRP was $22,700. My well-equipped '02 Z28 (all options except CD changer, convertible, and SS) was ~28k new.
Are you really suggesting that an '02 V6 stickered for 31K?
Are you really suggesting that an '02 V6 stickered for 31K?
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As discussed, there should be a govt task force charged with the responsibility of reviving the car industry.
OT: Btw, how is it that 'expensive to live' Germany can sustain 4 domestic automakers (VW/Audi, BMW, Merc and Opel(?)) but the USA cannot?
OT: Btw, how is it that 'expensive to live' Germany can sustain 4 domestic automakers (VW/Audi, BMW, Merc and Opel(?)) but the USA cannot?
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Germany isn't filled with contemptuous hateful self loathing indignant bastards hell bent on destroying the very pillars of thier economy?
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