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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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EcoBoost to carry $700 premium, more than 90 percent of 2013 Ford vehicles to have it

http://www.leftlanenews.com/fords-ec...0-premium.html
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Am I incorrect in assuming that this is a DI VVT Turbo motor?

$700 isn't much for a turbo. I would say it is a pretty good deal. Would be interesting to see if they could make some very small 4cyl use this and get over 40 mpg combined and power a car that will still move.

I hope GM will see this and make a move in this direction as well.


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It is interesting that this saves only 20% in V6 form to a V8. The numbers they gave of 340hp and 340lbft of torque. The engine that comes closest to that gets 13/17 has 300hp and 365lbft of torque. A 20% increase is 15.6/20.4.

The Chevy 5.3L Silverado has 315hp 338lbft of torque and gets 15/20. I was hoping that EcoBoost would be better than this.

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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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That's great. $700 is only $13/month more on a 5 year note, @ 5% interest. Pretty cheap for a turbo car. I have a feeling that option will be checked on the order sheet more often than not.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Plague
I hope GM will see this and make a move in this direction as well.
Me too. It would be cool if the Cobalt replacing CRUZE had the same power as the current Cobalt but got 40 plus MPG with a 1.4 liter turbo engine. Oh, wait, it will
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Plague
Am I incorrect in assuming that this is a DI VVT Turbo motor?

$700 isn't much for a turbo. I would say it is a pretty good deal. Would be interesting to see if they could make some very small 4cyl use this and get over 40 mpg combined and power a car that will still move.

I hope GM will see this and make a move in this direction as well.
GM will have a 1.4 Turbo DI 4 cylinder, 1.0, 2.0 and from a post by thegriffon on C&G they will likely throw DI on the 2.8T HF V6 in the SAAB 9-3 soon so they should actually have direct competitors for the Ecoboost engines when the Ecoboost engines are launched.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
GM will have a 1.4 Turbo DI 4 cylinder, 1.0, 2.0 and from a post by thegriffon on C&G they will likely throw DI on the 2.8T HF V6 in the SAAB 9-3 soon so they should actually have direct competitors for the Ecoboost engines when the Ecoboost engines are launched.
Great news to hear.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Time to buy stock in turbo rebuilders.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Plague
Am I incorrect in assuming that this is a DI VVT Turbo motor?
From the horse's mouth:
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=27455

(yeah, I wasn't 100% sure either, but then I don't buy Ford products. )
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Yes, I agree GM should match their competitors in offering a turbocharged V6, if for nothing else...

But what I would like to see is GM introduce technology on the V8s because I'm yet to be convinced that the turbo V6s will be substantially more fuel efficient than a nice efficient V8. Let's not forget, GM could do more to improve fuel economy of their V8s... like introducing AFM and DI as standard technologies. Then it would be interesting to make a comparison with the boosted V6.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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V8s... like introducing AFM and DI as standard technologies.

Like the G8 has and gets 15mpg???

and that 15mpg is with a 6 speed auto....
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by V8 Slayer
Like the G8 has and gets 15mpg???

and that 15mpg is with a 6 speed auto....
Not quite. The G8 does not have DI!

It doesn't even have VVT... so I make my point.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SSbaby
Not quite. The G8 does not have DI!

It doesn't even have VVT... so I make my point.

OK, it might bump to 17mpg... Still **** poor... V8's just are not efficient.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by V8 Slayer
OK, it might bump to 17mpg... Still **** poor... V8's just are not efficient.
I disagree w/ that. They are very efficient at making torque and having lots of power. They are not however fuel efficient for stop and go traffic or idling around town.

Two types of efficiency.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:33 AM
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OK, it might bump to 17mpg... Still **** poor... V8's just are not efficient.
On the basis of fuel consumption? Thats a rather simplistic stick to measure by.

I could say a DI VVT four stroke four cylinder absolutely blows compared to a single cylinder two stroke turbo-charged hybrid diesel by the same metric.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by V8 Slayer
OK, it might bump to 17mpg... Still **** poor... V8's just are not efficient.
2008 Honda S2000 2.2L 4cyl. = 25mpg hwy
2008 2008 Nissan 350z Roadster 3.5L V6 = 24mpg hwy
2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.2L V8 = 26mpg hwy.

What were you saying about V8 efficiency again? GMs 6.2L LS3 puts out about double the HP and torque of Honda's 2.2L and is in a heavier car yet gets 1mpg better on the hwy.



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