A swing and a miss by batter #1.

The meaning in the post is how Ford has worked with aftermarket to make their cars easy to mod, and give a huge bang for the buck - you know it will happen on this one too.

Ricer comment...

OK - whatever floats your boat.

 

A swing and a miss by batter #2.
See post above.


And there may be 500+hp tunes on this one running around doing just awesome too, huh? Isn't a 30% margin a safe one for warranty prep?
Anything is possible I suppose.

Cool!

1 thing we can agree on as well - Ford has not been known to UNDER rate any engines lately, have they? So what happens if it says 390/390 and really puts down 400+/400 on the crank? Would that still be a letdown for the public as well?


Get me straight on this - I think it's neat and I'm giggly over the new badges that are coming too for sentimental reasons, but I'd still rather see Ford drop 250lbs off the existing GT as opposed to adding 100hp to it.

Look at the article and numbers referenced earlier... you have GOT to admit that it is a crying SHAME to boast over 100hp more and yet ONLY crack-off a measly .7 sec (out of 100-seconds total) and .6mph(out of 80 total) over a 2.25-mile circuit. That's scarcely 1% in either category with a 33% power advantage.
Imagine the difference between a 100hp car and a 200hp car...
or a 300hp car and a 400hp car...
or a 500hp car and a 750hp car...
Why go for more power? The returns are so minimal for the investment.

Yeah, I like power too, but I'm still in the camp of "enough is enough, I'd rather beat you with less now".

 

And other mules too. Ford will stick it in all kinds of vehicles and platforms for testing. Not unusual.

Wouldn't that be an awesome job?

Boss - "Take this plain white Focus or Fusion with a 400hp V8 out and drive it for 10,000 miles. Beat it a little, put it through the paces, and give me a report on it by the first of next month."
Me - "Gone."

20-minutes later (if that long)...
"Here little Challenger... Here Kitty-kitty..."
"Here Beemer... c'mon kitty-kitty..."

 

400 HP + FWD = not nearly as much fun as you'd think. Unless we're talking about mules with RWD components covered by a Focus/Fusion body...

 

We know what Ford does with the aftermarket, it is the chip/exhaust comment that struck some as funny since

A) a catback exhaust will not net you anywhere near +50 HP
B) That I know of, no one does "chips" anymore, they're all programmable stock PCMs

Just wait till those underdrive pulleys come out, can you say +80 HP?

 

No swing and miss in either case. You just can't pitch.

Ford doesn't build lackluster cars because they know the aftermarket will pick up their slack. It's because they simply cannot build a decent performing car that competes with current competition. No matter how much promise any certain Ford product has, there is always one huge oversight that keeps it from being truly remarkable. They're the king of slightly above average in the performance realm. It's been this way since the mid 60s.

Mustang? Aren't they getting pushed around by naturally aspirated 6 cylinder Japanese cars?

 

looks like the mustang is hitting on all 8:
http://blog.caranddriver.com/2011-fo...-hp-5-0-liter/

if this is to believed then the camaro is in deep trouble.....

 

There's an AWD version of the Fusion...

 

and would be lots of fun with 400hp....

 

ohhh...here we go with this magical 5.0 again.
Yes, Ford has some how, after years and years of coming up short in the performance game, found out a way to have a world-beating V8.
And, the best part is that they are going to offer it in a Mustang, for under 30k.
And if you belive that, I have a tons of oceanfront property up for sale in Utah. PM me for details.

Lexus and Jag have 400+hp V8's, both use adavanced fuel injection, and are both brand new, from the ground up engines. And both engines are in cars costing 2x as much as a current Mustang GT.
Ford bored out the 4.6, added 4V heads, and some how found 100hp?

5.0 will make 360-375hp tops. It will give it a good performance engine, but it sure isnt going to make 400+hp.


Mustang GT with track package has shown to be a great performance car, but you sacrafice every day ride. Not to mention, the MASSIVE price tag. Every GT w/ track pack in testing in these car rags tested near 39k. Thats 8 grand more then the SS, 6 grand more then a SS with leather. And outside of C&D's, IMO, review of what I think was a worn out, broken or busted SS vs the Mustang GT, the Camaro SS outperfromed the Mustang GT time and time again, even with its softer suspension.

They can improve the Camaro's steering. They did it with the C6. When the Z06 and ZR1 were being released, the entire line up recieved the brand new variable ratio rack and pinion steering, and the Camaro shares it as well. It wont take log for GM to fix this.

Someone balked at the idea that GM wouldnt offer a track like package for Camaro.
To that person, welcome back to the real work and we are all glad you could come out of hiding from either the rock or cave you have been in for some 20 years.

 

Proud, I call uncle. We'll see in 4-5 months.

And I still think it is a ricer comment.

 

Was this posted before? More talk about 5.0 powered track pack Mustang. Supposedly matched a M3 on their test track. Wonder if they gave it better brakes too.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/12/r...k-to-handle-5/

 

That was a 2010 Mustang they were testing, with the 4.6. They gloss over the fact that the Mustang was wearing R-compound tires like it's just a minor detail.

It also sounds like it had a Corsa exhaust, which probably means an extra ~10hp or so.

 

You have a PM.

 

The vert would suffer from some chassis softness if you ask me, but overall the times don't seem to show it.
The coupe rocks hard.