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Old 12-14-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

Well, seeing as how the car only has a 3,500 markup, there must be rebates or dealer cash in that $27k total. But yeah, that's cheap...
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

Originally Posted by guionM
The Charger is a good news-OK news type of car. It's no doubt a success, but it's an unusual sucess to say the least.

*There's been over 69K of them this year compared with 69K 300s over the 1st 7 months of production last year, but typically takes 36 days to sell compared with the 300's 16.

*88% of Chargers were sold with a rebate (the segment average is 52%), but the average Charger rebate was a mere $1100 compared to the segment average of nearly $1500!
1) I have seen one Charger on the road. I see 300s everywhere. If Chargers are selling at the same rate, it sure as hell is not in the Northeast!!

2) What your statistic didn't tell you was that the segment average of $1,500 is heavily influenced by GM. Ignore GM, and the industry average falls by over $1,485...interesting.

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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

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1) I have seen one Charger on the road. I see 300s everywhere. If Chargers are selling at the same rate, it sure as hell is not in the Northeast!!

2) What your statistic didn't tell you was that the segment average of $1,500 is heavily influenced by GM. Ignore GM, and the industry average falls by over $1,485...interesting.

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1) They are probally all in California, Nevada, and Arizona. I have no problem seeing alot of them...... and I do mean alot!

2. I was thinking the same thing. The only other volume player in this market is Toyota & Honda.
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

I see a lot here in New Orleans. Neighbor down the street as a silver one and it reminds me of my car. So I guess the K-car never died .
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I see an assload of them down here. I must say, a black Charger looks mean as hell
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

Well, that makes sense...a bunch down south and out west, and none up here in the FWD/snow capital/import capital of the U.S.

Makes sense to me!
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

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Well, that makes sense...a bunch down south and out west, and none up here in the FWD/snow capital/import capital of the U.S.

Makes sense to me!
I see lots of Chargers around here, not as numerous as 300 or Magnum though.

I don't really know how I feel about the Charger anymore. I know, sounds weird. I've gone from not liking it, to liking it, to being indifferent.
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I went from not liking it to... not liking it.

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I went from not liking it to... not liking it.


Hey Joe, do you still work for GM? I see you've moved.
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Hey Joe, do you still work for GM? I see you've moved.
Yes, still working for the General under Powertrain, but now I am with the Allison Transmission Division (which is basically a company within the company). Still have lots of connections up in MI, but unfortunately, I don't get much of a chance to see/drive the new stuff long before it is out. Luckily I got to drive the new Z06 a few times before the move, but since then...

On the plus side, the company paid for me to get my CDL (truck driving school! ). I now get to drive big Freightliners, Volvos, etc. 500 hp in a Vette is a lot faster than 500 hp (and ~1300 lb-ft) in a dump truck, but the dump truck is still fun in a different kinda way.

I miss the Proving Grounds terribly though, even though the new job is actually cooler than what I was doing.
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Charlie,

I've gone from despising it, to liking it, to being indifferent as well...so you're not the only one feeling that way. I honestly think the stupid INTREPID was a more attractive car, sadly.

The car garners attention because of the Hemi. The 300C garners it for the Hemi AND the fact it is indeed an attractive car. Too bad the GXP can't garner more attention...I think its better looking than the Charger. I think the problem is that no one knows about the GXP
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Re: Dodge Charger sales: A mixed bag..... but still good.

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Charlie,

I've gone from despising it, to liking it, to being indifferent as well...so you're not the only one feeling that way. I honestly think the stupid INTREPID was a more attractive car, sadly.

The car garners attention because of the Hemi. The 300C garners it for the Hemi AND the fact it is indeed an attractive car. Too bad the GXP can't garner more attention...I think its better looking than the Charger. I think the problem is that no one knows about the GXP
Attention just because of the Hemi? I have to disagree.... mostly.... kinda.

Like Drew said, the Charger looks mean as hell. In black, it makes the previous king of mean (the mid 90s Impala SS) look as threatening as a Teletubby in a Raider's T-shirt. It's not a beautiful car, but you DO tend to get out of the way when you see one barreling down on you in the rear view mirror.

The Hemi name helps things along, but even if Chrysler stuck their OHC V8 (remember those... yes, they are still around!) in these things, they would still be showstoppers.
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Attention just because of the Hemi? I have to disagree.... mostly.... kinda.

Like Drew said, the Charger looks mean as hell. In black, it makes the previous king of mean (the mid 90s Impala SS) look as threatening as a Teletubby in a Raider's T-shirt. It's not a beautiful car, but you DO tend to get out of the way when you see one barreling down on you in the rear view mirror.
I strongly object. It might look sportier/more athletic, but it does not look as mean, imo, as the Impala SS did.
The Hemi name helps things along, but even if Chrysler stuck their OHC V8 (remember those... yes, they are still around!) in these things, they would still be showstoppers.
I dunno about that. Hell, the Intrepid was hugely innovative (basically a show stopper) when it came out (first gen LH cars). Very sleek styling and tons of room on their long wheelbase, cab forward design. The new car would get points for its return to RWD, but without the success of the Hemi name carried over from the truck, it would have nowhere near the success/following that it has today (LX cars in general). Granted, the 300 would still sell well, because even though it is ugly, apparently it is "attractive" or "Bentley-like" (except that most Bentleys were not hit by an Ugly missile). The wussy 235 hp (or even 265 hp) 4.7L V8 instead of the 340 hp 5.7 would drop it from ugly but potent muscle sedan to ugly and mid-pack family sedan. Lots of competing cars with V6s would have no trouble keeping up with a 265 hp but heavy LX car.

I guess we'll never know, though, unless DCX decides pull the 5.7 and drop in the stepchild 4.7.

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Guy remember one thing a woman's cleavage helps make everything easier.
Sad but true, if its tanked on testosterone then clevage his this hypnotic effect. My old roommate used this to great effect on several cops
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