Diesels making Hybrid obsolete
Diesels making Hybrid obsolete
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...s-hybrid_x.htm
USA today tested a Diesel VW vs. a Prius
The VW is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and the diesel engine will last a lot longer than the hybrid.
USA today tested a Diesel VW vs. a Prius
The VW is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and the diesel engine will last a lot longer than the hybrid.
Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
Would not a diesel powered hybrid be better than either of those?
Would not a diesel powered hybrid be better than either of those?
Would not a diesel powered hybrid be better than either of those?

Actually, diesels still need to "clean up their act" a bit. Even current little diesels are bigger polluters than current little gas engines. I know they are working on better exhaust particulate (i.e. soot) elimination (the 4-way catalyst), and the low-sulfur rules coming in 2006? will further the cause. It ought to be ready for "The Big Time" at that point.
But, I expect that a lot of oil companies don't want diesel as the prominent fuel of choice. Each additional refining step offers a place to skim additional profits, ya know.

I wouldn't mind owning one of these-
http://www.gtr34.com/pictures/diesel...d/DSCF0051.JPG
Check out the speedo. On the Autobahn, and that gauge is MPH, and he's getting passed by a diesel 4cyl
-http://www.gtr34.com/pictures/diesel...d/DSCF0047.JPG
Cool video about the tech behind the engine-
http://www.world.honda.com/HDTV/news..._1a/index.html
Anything on the American side coming down the pipe?
Todd
Re: Diesels making Hybrid obsolete
Originally posted by Z28x
USA today tested a Diesel VW vs. a Prius
The VW is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and the diesel engine will last a lot longer than the hybrid.
USA today tested a Diesel VW vs. a Prius
The VW is cheaper to buy, cheaper to drive, and the diesel engine will last a lot longer than the hybrid.
I think alot of people already suspected that. On a side note, anyone see GM's magazine ads for its hybrid buses it just rolled out in seattle. Apparently the hybrid busses have the potential to save the country far more gas than a bunch of little priuses running around. Never hear about those in the media.
Originally posted by Todd80Z28
Anything on the American side coming down the pipe?
Anything on the American side coming down the pipe?

Originally posted by slt
I think alot of people already suspected that. On a side note, anyone see GM's magazine ads for its hybrid buses it just rolled out in seattle. Apparently the hybrid busses have the potential to save the country far more gas than a bunch of little priuses running around. Never hear about those in the media.
I think alot of people already suspected that. On a side note, anyone see GM's magazine ads for its hybrid buses it just rolled out in seattle. Apparently the hybrid busses have the potential to save the country far more gas than a bunch of little priuses running around. Never hear about those in the media.
GM says one hybrid Bus saves as much gas a 40 hybrid cars
GM's new road-ready hybrid electric technology will start saving the Seattle area 750,000 gallons of fuel per year. If nine other major metropolitan cities adopted this technology for its buses, it could mean saving more than 40 million gallons of fuel a year.
Last edited by Z28x; Jun 15, 2004 at 11:54 AM.
Sad part is that none of the progress that GM makes in Hybrid cars, that will actualy make an impact on the world, will never be talked about and just be a footnote. But look at that fancy computer screen in the Prius!! oooooo
I think that Saturn needs a nice Diesel from Opel. Saturn should be Opel here in the US.
I think that Saturn needs a nice Diesel from Opel. Saturn should be Opel here in the US.
The part I noticed is the blurb about low-sulfur gasoline. I had heard about the low-sulfur diesel fuel, but not gas.
I wonder if new low-sulfur gas has the same abilty to make more power like low-sufur diesel will, or is it just an emissions thing.
I wonder if new low-sulfur gas has the same abilty to make more power like low-sufur diesel will, or is it just an emissions thing.
Originally posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
The part I noticed is the blurb about low-sulfur gasoline. I had heard about the low-sulfur diesel fuel, but not gas.
I wonder if new low-sulfur gas has the same abilty to make more power like low-sufur diesel will, or is it just an emissions thing.
The part I noticed is the blurb about low-sulfur gasoline. I had heard about the low-sulfur diesel fuel, but not gas.
I wonder if new low-sulfur gas has the same abilty to make more power like low-sufur diesel will, or is it just an emissions thing.
Originally posted by Z28x
unleaded gas is already low sulfur, it won't ad power to the Diesels, it's just an emissions thing.
unleaded gas is already low sulfur, it won't ad power to the Diesels, it's just an emissions thing.
The Jetta spews out six times more sulfur particulates than Prius, which can run almost emission-free when using low-sulfur gasoline available in California but almost nowhere else. Federal regulations require phasing in of low-sulfur gas and diesel the next few years, which will improve the emission performance of both gas and diesel vehicles.
Hmmm, I thought that reducing sulfur increased combustion efficiency. Wouldn't increased power potentially be part of that?
Originally posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
According to the above article
I was just going by what they are saying above.
Hmmm, I thought that reducing sulfur increased combustion efficiency. Wouldn't increased power potentially be part of that?
According to the above article
I was just going by what they are saying above.
Hmmm, I thought that reducing sulfur increased combustion efficiency. Wouldn't increased power potentially be part of that?
Come 2006 the new low Sulfur Diesel should help out a lot.
I wish they'd sell some good diesel CARS in this country. I'd buy one in a minute - but I don't want another VW and that E-class is just a little to pricy for my blood.
Too bad those bastages at BMW won't bring over the diesel Mini.
That'd be a hell of a commuter.
Too bad those bastages at BMW won't bring over the diesel Mini.
That'd be a hell of a commuter.
I wish GM partnered with the Houston METRO to get some of those Hybrid Buses here. The current system could really benefit the city and it's pollution problem while at the same time improve the image of public transporation in TX.


