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1990 Turbo Grand Prix 03-29-2005 08:47 AM

Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 
1. What are the differences between the LS2 in the Vette/GTO and the SSR? Wasn't it simply the heads, or is there more than that?

2. Anyone know why is Chevrolet calling its 2.4 NA Ecotec model, SS, when there is already the SS Supercharged? Didn't Chevy learn why not to do that thanks to the Monte Carlo?

Thanks.

:)

MissedShift 03-29-2005 09:05 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 
I was under the impression that the N/A Cobalt Coupes were NOT getting the SS badge...

I remember it being the plan to have SS and SS Supercharged, but I also remember a press release stating that they had revised that scheme...

NewbieWar 03-29-2005 09:39 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 
what did they learn from Monte carlo? i know lots of people love that supercharged beast.

but i was under the impression the Supercharged ecotec will be a smaller engine like a 2.0 or 2.2 not the same 2.4

but yea the SS will be supercharged and will be about 14.5 at 98.0 in the quarter mile, 0-60 in 6.0, and 0-100 in 15.7 :eek: 2 more miles per hour and 1.2 seconds later not good

Steve0 03-29-2005 09:47 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 
There should be no mechanical differences between the LS2 in any vehicle. The only differences should be in the packaging. The SSR probably has a more restrictive intake and exhaust system, as well as a different accessory drive.

Chris 96 WS6 03-29-2005 09:51 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 

Originally Posted by Steve0
There should be no mechanical differences between the LS2 in any vehicle. The only differences should be in the packaging. The SSR probably has a more restrictive intake and exhaust system, as well as a different accessory drive.

Yep. Intake and exhaust tracting is probably different, but internally all LS2s are the same. If you changed the heads then it wouldn't really be an LS2 anymore by GM's engine naming convention.

jawzforlife 03-29-2005 09:59 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 

Originally Posted by NewbieWar
what did they learn from Monte carlo? i know lots of people love that supercharged beast.

First they had the Monte Carlo SS which was just the 3800 engine. Then the put in the 3800 supercharger and called it the SS Superchared. So then there weare two SS Monte Carlos out, one with a 3800 and one with a 3800 supercharger.

NewbieWar 03-29-2005 10:04 AM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 
thats not a good idea, the reg monte carlo would give it bad word of mouth... comon GM dont be a sell out, think of the slogan

SPEED KILLS
SAVE LIVES
DRIVE A HONDA

Comon GM Dont be Honda ;)

AdioSS 03-29-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 

Originally Posted by NewbieWar
but yea the SS will be supercharged and will be about 14.5 at 98.0 in the quarter mile, 0-60 in 6.0, and 0-100 in 15.7 :eek: 2 more miles per hour and 1.2 seconds later not good

I am pretty sure the 15.7 time is for 0-100-0.

NewbieWar 03-29-2005 08:53 PM

Re: Couple new/upcoming product questions...
 

Originally Posted by AdioSS
I am pretty sure the 15.7 time is for 0-100-0.


hrmm that would make a lot of sense let me look into that, my buddy just showed me on his camera phone but maybe there was a -0 at the end of it... that would be good it it was...

Lets see this is Car And Driver's report... Ive seen better elsewhere but lets go with it <------------>

Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 2-door coupe
Base price: $21,995
Engine type: supercharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection
Displacement: 122 cu in, 1998cc
Power (SAE net): 205 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 200 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Transmission: 5-speed manual
Wheelbase: 103.3 in
Length/width/height: 180.5/68.4/55.6 in
Curb weight: 2900 lb
C/D-estimated performance:
Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 16.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.7 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 140 mph
Projected fuel economy (mfr's est):
EPA city driving: 23 mpg
EPA highway driving: 29 mpg


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