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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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COMMENTARY: Two Dozen New Models May Overcrowd GM's Four-Brand Garage

There are actually some descriptions of the cars GM showed here....

Wonder if the Malibu they are describing is the design of the RWD Impala that was supposed to happen a few years ago?

It's not unusual for General Motors Co. and other big car companies to show the media a

couple year's worth of pending new models. The difference this week was that GM showed the goods - and allowed reporters to tell all about what they saw.


With the U.S. Treasury Department holding some $60 billion of its markers, GM must quickly convince all its stakeholders the company's got stuff people will want to buy. Good stuff - better than the stuff it insisted was good in the past. The kind of stuff that generates revenue that pays back the kind of debt GM's run up.

Notwithstanding the 230-miles-per-gallon Chevrolet Volt coming next year, GM brags it has some two dozen new-model launches scheduled between now and 2011, but this quantity indicates nothing about the more-important factor: whether a significant number of these new models are winners.

What GM wouldn't allow was photography. But we'll describe with a division-by-division analysis of the new products, most of which are coming by 2011:

BUICK


The plug-in hybrid version of the Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain/Cadillac SRX compact crossover coming for 2011 (and a conventionally powered variant next year) was unimaginatively frumpy in the form and lame pastel color we saw.

Buick's got two new sedans that definitely are green-lighted and an intriguing crossover concept that's smaller than its version of the compact-midsize Equinox.

First, to Buick's sedans: The new midsizer has deep door sculpting and a strong-shoulder line that hikes up at the rear fenders that reminds (in a good way) of the Oldsmobile Intrigue. And you don't have to look too hard to see the whole thing is knocked off the lovely Opel Insignia launched in Europe last year. It's a solid and strong design, but not necessarily one that will stretch Buick's showroom appeal.

We were less convinced by a compact Buick sedan based on the front-wheel-drive Delta underpinnings that we'll soon see wearing the Chevrolet Cruze body. The proportions and general design appeared awkward, and there was a distinct lack of character. If there's not more sculpting to come, there needs to be.

The compact crossover concept Buick designers unveiled, however, was more adventurous. The thing wears a revision of the Enclave front clip, has a prominently wide track and a C-pillar/jutting hatch that looks something like the Nissan Rogue only with a lot more thought.

Nobody said, so speculation abounds this vehicle rides on Korea-engineered global subcompact platform of the next-gen Chevrolet Aveo. Then again, we heard the larger "delta" compact FWD underpinnings of the coming Chevrolet Cruze could be the donor chassis.

CADILLAC

The big news was that Caddy confirmed it's pulling the trigger on a rear- or all-wheel-drive BMW 3-Series competitor. The coupe concept of this car looked good enough, if maybe a bit too much like a hacked-down version of the CTS coupe, that, if its silly amalgam of sharp angles makes it to production, probably is too "out there" to really move the needle.

Probably the most significant - and demoralizing - Caddy unveiled here was the XTS concept indicating the division's probable direction for a large sedan that will cover the ground of today's Cadillac STS and Cadillac DTS. We're okay with one car taking the place of those two chronic underperformers, but nobody was bragging about rear-drive with this concept: GM seemingly has locked in the traverse-engine, front-drive layout from the global large-FWD architecture that also probably will accommodate all-wheel-drive.

With the bomb that was the X-Type, Jaguar tried to disguise utilitarian FWD underpinnings by layering on AWD - and we all know how that turned out.

The XTS large-sedan concept and the 2010 SRX indicate the Cadillac brain trust and other high-level execs have conveniently forgotten the promise - and the once-stated need - to use RWD platforms to ensure the credibility to compete with the European luxo-sport brands. Bad move.

The new SRX already is on sale and the CTS Sport Wagon hit showrooms this month - and we hear the 500-horse-plus V-Series version of the CTS wagon is approved.

CHEVROLET

The showpiece was the next-generation Chevrolet Malibu sedan, upsized with increased visual heft and wearing some artfully-integrated Camaro cues. Yes, Chevrolet Camaro - and damned if it doesn't work: there are the four distinct blocky taillights and the Camaro-inspired C-pillar that blends tantalizingly into bulgy rear fenders.

Designers admit they wanted the new Malibu - we think it's a '12 model, though there's haziness about that - to look bigger. Even though it will be shorter in wheelbase and the same in overall length. The big, up-raised trunk (envision the Chris Bangle-ized BMW 7-Series) and beefier sheet metal make the Malibu appear similar next to the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry - the two primary targets. Customers complain about the current Malibu's narrow trunk opening and meager capacity, so the shortened wheelbase accommodates a larger trunk.

Meanwhile, there are going to be a lot of little Chevys running around in the next couple of years. The bowtie division showed off the production Spark, a car "sized and priced less than the Aveo." We weren't impressed. Even if gasoline hits $5 a gallon again, the Spark would be a tough sell, even at the 30,000 to 40,000 annual sales rate that's the reputed target.

The flimsy Spark is balanced by the next-gen Aveo, which looks much more palatable than

the current car, the highlight being a prominently forward-angled C-pillar inspired by the Kia Soul. The handles for the rear doors are cleverly integrated forward of that C-pillar and high on the glass, all but disguised and imparting a coupe look for this 4-door subcompact.

Chevy also showed the production version of the Cruze, the replacement for the Cobalt we've seen before. The Cruze is visually more substantial than the Cobalt and clearly more upscale inside. We can only hope the turbocharged 1.4-liter 4-cylinder generates acceptable shove.

The Orlando midi-crossover looks better every time we see it and is one model Chevy should try to hasten to showrooms. The niche is relatively open and exploitable and the Orlando could make an impact if Chevy can get the lead out.

The Camaro convertible is convincing enough - there's serious retro vibe coming off - although designers say several details are still to be hammered out.

GMC

Even after seeing the new hardware, we can't say we're sure where GMC is going. We're not sure GMC knows where GMC is going.

But we did like a funky and chunky concept car that looks like the fusion of the Kia Soul (there's that Korean C-pillar again), the Mini Cooper Clubman and a Scion xB. How an obvious "car" fits with GMC's genteel-truck image, is anybody's guess, but execs say the fat fender flares at least could accommodate the all-wheel-drive they insist is expected of all GMCs.

Plenty of GM's near-term new products look viable. Whether they will be compelling is less certain - particularly when factoring in the obvious high degree of badge engineering that, now that GM has just four divisions, seems to be perhaps even more crowding of each brand's "space."

Unleashing two dozen new models in the next two years sounds spectacular. Several of these are convincing, but many are badging efforts that leave the uneasy feeling GM's real emphasis remains not on product, but on making that product fit into its still-arcane marketing structure.

Several of the company's new cars and concepts do look great and seem to indicate design has more influence in the "new" company's mandate. But there are enough prominently cost-driven product choices to demonstrate the accountants continue to have their say as well. -- Bill Visnic
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Sounds to me like the Aveo looks similar to the Groove concept. If that's the case, someone might want to tell them it predates the Soul by a good margin - though there's certainly some resemblance between the two.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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They didn't sound too impressed with anything outside of Chevy.

This whole Caddy FWD/AWD large sedan thing is a huge gamble.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
This whole Caddy FWD/AWD large sedan thing is a huge gamble.
I'm taking a wait and see attitude. Audi does pretty well with FWD based AWD luxury sedans with humble VW roots.

The X-type was a flop in the U.S., but was much more popular in Europe and is still being sold there. It's main problem was that it was undersized and underperforming for the U.S. market more than the fact that it was based on the Mondeo. Had it been larger inside and offered better performance, the story might be different.

The STS was accepted and fairly successful as a FWD from 1992-2005 and the DTS is still FWD. I'd prefer a RWD Caddy flagship, but I think when you consider the market for this car it's not necessarily doomed to fail. There will still be the CTS and ATS to pick up the RWD performance part of the equation.

I do hope they come up with a V8 for the XTS, though.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
The STS was accepted and fairly successful as a FWD from 1992-2005 and the DTS is still FWD.
Well, I suppose that depends on the definition of "successful". Those cars were successful in that traditional Cadillac blue-hairs loved them. They were big, floaty and extremely inoffensive.

"Standard of the World"-type luxury vehicles? Vehicles that made a splash on the luxury market? Vehicles that made the younger successful crowd swoon? Not on your life. I thought this was the type of thing Cadillac was going for ever since Art & Science and the first CTS debuted.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Well, I suppose that depends on the definition of "successful."
Successful is a car that sells.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Successful is a car that sells.
You mean with profit. I don't know if those cars where profitable but, selling a car is one thing. Selling a car with profit is something else.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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You mean with profit. I don't know if those cars where profitable but, selling a car is one thing. Selling a car with profit is something else.
Yes, a car that sells at a profit. I should have been more clear.
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Originally Posted by 95redLT1
Wonder if the Malibu they are describing is the design of the RWD Impala that was supposed to happen a few years ago?
I was thinking the same thing.

Also I like the idea of a small GMC. I Think this is the way the brand needs to expand.
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why can't caddy make a large rear-wheel drive sedan like ford did with the CV/GM/TC? everyone i know that's ever ridden in one has loved them. they're the perfect boulevard cruisers they just needed better styling (which is what caddy could give them)
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The new Malibu might contain some design elements from the scrapped (and supposedly drop-dead gorgeous) RWD Impala, but you can't simply transfer an entire design from a RWD car to a FWD car. Especially one with different dimensions.

Whatever we get with the next Malibu, I have little doubt the design that inspired it, if it is indeed the RWD Impala, looked a lot better on the Zeta structure.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I'm taking a wait and see attitude. Audi does pretty well with FWD based AWD luxury sedans with humble VW roots.
It has taken Audi 30 years to build up their brand equity. GM doesn't have that long. Using a FWD/AWD platform is a huge obstacle to overcome.

If an AWD LaCrosse is 4200+ pounds, and this Caddy will be larger and more luxurious, I'm afraid that an AWD version with a V8 would weigh 4500 pounds or more.
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It has taken Audi 30 years to build up their brand equity.
Actually, the whole "Unintended Acceleration" debacle annihilated Audi's reputation in 1986 and their climb back took about ten years. I know GM doesn't have that long, but I'd question whether Caddys reputation was EVER as utterly destroyed, even in the Cimmaron days, as Audis was by unintended acceleration. That absolutely devastated the brand in the U.S. It was really the mid 90s befre Audi's reputation recovered. So their return to consideration as a top luxury brand is a fairly recent development.

Originally Posted by teal98
Using a FWD/AWD platform is a huge obstacle to overcome.
Assuming that the goal is to create a "standard of the world" flagship sedan, which I don't think it is it is a huge obstacle. But I think it is a DTS replacement not that much different in intention or orientation than the current DTS. Like I said, I'm taking a wait and see attitude.

Originally Posted by teal98
If an AWD LaCrosse is 4200+ pounds, and this Caddy will be larger and more luxurious, I'm afraid that an AWD version with a V8 would weigh 4500 pounds or more.
Undoubtedly. A primarily aluminum Audi A8 weighs 4700 pounds.
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Yes, Chevrolet Camaro - and damned if it doesn't work: there are the four distinct blocky taillights
The worst looking part of the car they choose to use...
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
The new Malibu might contain some design elements from the scrapped (and supposedly drop-dead gorgeous) RWD Impala, but you can't simply transfer an entire design from a RWD car to a FWD car. Especially one with different dimensions.

Whatever we get with the next Malibu, I have little doubt the design that inspired it, if it is indeed the RWD Impala, looked a lot better on the Zeta structure.
I'm almost certain (based on the quick description) that the Malibu design is an evolution of the one from the stillborn RWD Impala (also based on descriptions).

They didn't seem too fond of the Spark. Good thing is that it will aparently be made here instead of China. But it's a bad omen when the press calls it cheap or flimsy next to an Aveo.


Jumping to GM's other new cars, like Eric, I'm going to take a wait-and-see position.

Although I'm a rabid RWD fan, you simply can not ignore the fact that till recently, FWD DTSs were selling at least as well as RWD CTSs and were simply flooring STSs in sales. Combined with the relatively cheap cost of using an existing full size, FWD platform, and the demographic DTS is aimed at, one could make a very ironclad case for this in a company desparately wanting to pay off it's debt (and become publicly traded again).

I think GM is making a huge mistake if they badge engineer a Cruize as a Buick. This reminds me of how GM put a "J-car" in every division in the early 80s. It's a cheap way to keep factories running at full capacity. But it also:

1. Cheapens brands (Cadillac Cimmaron? Oldsmobile Firenza? Buick Skyhawk?)
2. It wastes money by marketing the same car multiple ways (isn't that the idea of dropping divisions?)

GMC needs a smaller vehicle. But I'd imagine that smaller vehicle to be no smaller than an Equinox, not something based on the Delta.
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