*Bump*

Cough..Jimbo...Cough

 

In a world of increasing practicality, we often forget the MOST important stat about the car we choose..
Does it make me get out of bed looking forward to driving it?
Can me and my children look back one day and say, "remember that cool "..X.." we used to own, what fun we had in that, man those were the days!"..
ALL cars break every now and then for many reasons, but fixing something you desperately LOVE to drive is better than keeping up, just a "mode of family transportation".
I agree we tend to put too much emphasis on practicality, too little on personal satisfaction.
Thanks Newbie,

 

The two worst vehicles I've ever been privy to were a 2000 Chevy Astro and a 1990 Toyota Camry. Both had so many problems it was mind boggling.

 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Nearly everyone has 'incidental' evidence to support their point of view (i.e. my brother had >insert brand here< and it was garbage)

Let's look at facts.

Go here:

http://www.chirpthird.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2391

By the way......Toyota does not make all their parts in America....or North America, for that matter. The window label gives North American Content...you'd be surprised at how much stuff goes into an 'American built' Toyota that is not sourced in North America.

 

I have seen plenty of Honda's with problems. Their gearboxs were sh*t in the early 90s. Abuse a Honda, and it will die, just like any other car. I have seen this more than a few times as well. I have seen my fair share of Nissans that a crap as well. Nissan doesn't scream reliability to me (although I have no real problem with them either). Just yesterday, I was being a Corolla that was belching oil smoke out of its tailpipes.

You are allowed to have your own opinions, but just remember that they are not fact. I am not pro or anti anything. I have seen plenty of domestic cars that have close to or over 200,000 miles on them, and still run. Likewise for imports. Truth is, when cars get to be 10 or 15 years old, often times they start turning to trash, regardless of who makes them. Most people don't take really good care of their cars, so they fade, rust, scratch, start developing little problems here and there, start making noises, etc. I have no problem acknowledging that there are more than a few beat-***, ragged on domestic POSs out there, but you would have to be blind to not see the import equivelants of those driving around as well. Last I checked I didn't live in the woods, there is no sand near me, my sight is fine, and I seldom wear anything over my ears.

 

So, do you work for the General?

 

You obviously don't visit here very much.

Besides, so what if he does? GM didnt gather that information, so what does it matter?

 

I'm on this site a lot, just recently started posting in the "news" section because I dont venture out of LT1 tech and Fbody lounge much, but I like this section now that I'm here...

Does he work for the general is all I wanna know, why the ***** hurt attitude?

If he works for the general I was actually going to tell him to keep up the good work and tell him I'm proud of the way they're making their products significantly better than they were even a generation ago, furthermore their customer service seems to be taking note. I say that because I've written numerous detailed emails to Chevy, Pontiac and the general and recieved multiple responses from each resulting in numerous email conversations one supposedly was from the head of Pontiac reguarding the solstice. I like that kind of response from a company and I like the fact that at least on the surface they appear to be listening to my input.

 

That is Scott Settlemire. He is in charge of concepts and displays at GM shows and the like. His previous job was Camaro brand manager.

 

 

This was rather refreshing to read, however that's only one article! It's gonna take more than that one, to pull the people's ( I mean sheep's) heads out of the sand, with the constant bashing GM gets from the scumbags in the autopress, and regular press. Still it's a good start, and shows GM is not making the product they made in the 80's, though there's alot of sheep out there that are still clueless.

 

Because I thought that is where that comment was going. I apologize. He does indeed work at GM, as has already been mentioned.

 

Curious as to what "domestic" content means? is that Canada and Mexico too or what?

Fact is that GM had some time where they slipped up on the quality (think early 90s to maybe 2000?) and lost a LOT of loyal customers to other brand marks. The GM dealer closest to me is HUUUGE but they treat you like a number.

 

To quote my friend who cannot get Ford to honor her factory warranty:
"i'm ****in buying an import next time"

 

What's the implied story around this?