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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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Chrysler RWD 300C to start @ $25,000 ($35,000 with HEMI)

Here ya go- http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/dcx18_20031118.htm

The article also mentions Chryslers show car @ 2004 NAIAS




So would a new 2007 2-door HEMI Charger sell for around $32,000?

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Hmm . . . so a loaded Malibu and a stripped 300C are the same sticker?

The 300C is still ugly, but I know which one I would take.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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I like the sound of that, although for some reason I can't think of what the 300C looks like. Is that the convertible from several years ago?
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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I like the sound of that, although for some reason I can't think of what the 300C looks like.
I think it kind of looks like a Bently or Rolls Royce.

Those prices seem fair
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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This makes it even more amazing to me that you could get a base Z28 for about 21K brand new. Heres another "alleged "bang-for-the-buck V8 starting out at 35K...almost double...
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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I like the sound of that, although for some reason I can't think of what the 300C looks like. Is that the convertible from several years ago?

300c pics
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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Hmm . . . so a loaded Malibu and a stripped 300C are the same sticker?

The 300C is still ugly, but I know which one I would take.
Yeah, and a BMW 325i is only a $3,000 upgrade on a loaded Malibu LT. Of course, the Malibu already has a rebate.

In any case, the starting price on the 300C is meaningless. If the sub $25K 300C comes without stability control, traction control or even ABS, it won't be much of a deal. Will D-C give the RWD sedans and wagons a full slate of safety features as standard? Judging by their track record in that regard, I'd say no.

The 300C has alot of strikes against before it even hits the street. The car is inheriting a tarnished brand image, and worse yet, a Chrysler V6. RWD will just be another nail in the coffin for most buyers. However, aggressive pricing and standard stability control could change the minds of the upscale buyers that Chrysler is looking for. Like that's going to happen.
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The Cadillac CTS with the 255 horse 3.6 V6 and the Luxury Sport Package costs about $35,000.

The Lincoln LS Sport with the 280 horse 4.6 V8 costs about $40,000.

Or you could buy a Chrysler 300C with a 345 horse 5.7 V8 for a tick under $35,000!

Im sorry, but given a choice between paying for a smaller, slower, 6 banger BMW 325i or getting a roomy, Mercedes sourced, fast, muscular, HEMI powered luxury sedan......and save $3,000 in the process, you'll choke on my vapor trails as I make a beeline for the Chrysler showroom!
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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300c pics
Thank you. From what I am seeing here, I like it alot.
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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I'd get the GTO
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I'd get the GTO
AGREED!
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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I'd get the GTO
Id get a C6 Z06
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Id get a C6 Z06
But not for $35k... maybe C5 Z06.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by guionM
The Cadillac CTS with the 255 horse 3.6 V6 and the Luxury Sport Package costs about $35,000.

The Lincoln LS Sport with the 280 horse 4.6 V8 costs about $40,000.

Or you could buy a Chrysler 300C with a 345 horse 5.7 V8 for a tick under $35,000!

Im sorry, but given a choice between paying for a smaller, slower, 6 banger BMW 325i or getting a roomy, Mercedes sourced, fast, muscular, HEMI powered luxury sedan......and save $3,000 in the process, you'll choke on my vapor trails as I make a beeline for the Chrysler showroom!
1. The Cadillac can't compare to the Infiniti G35 on price, performance or styling. It's even a less convincing product than a stripped 325i. More to the point, the CTS is failing to attract luxury-import buyers - 50% of sales come from current GM buyers, and half of the rest come from other domestic brands. If the 300C competes with CTS, it is only because of Cadillac's failed marketing.

2. The Lincoln LS was dated from day one, hasn't aged well, and does feel like a quality car. This car trails the pack, and can't be considered a benchmark for any comparison.

3. The 300C Hemi has a truck motor, is styled like a cross between a Rolls-Royce and a concrete bunker, and has a wickedly downmarket badge. A Mercedes slushbox and rear suspension aren't enough to make a Chrysler a Mercedes. Witness the spectacular flop that is the Pacifica - or the growing inventory of Crossfires at my local dealer.

Talk is cheap, but it takes rebates to sell Chryslers.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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1. The Cadillac can't compare to the Infiniti G35 on price, performance or styling. It's even a less convincing product than a stripped 325i. More to the point, the CTS is failing to attract luxury-import buyers - 50% of sales come from current GM buyers, and half of the rest come from other domestic brands. If the 300C competes with CTS, it is only because of Cadillac's failed marketing.


G35's cheaper and .5 seconds quicker to 60 than than the CTS, but the CTS is generally recognized to have superior handling.

You seem to have a knack for really stating things that are false (put diplomatically). CTS is infact attracting import buyers, and is the only domestic brand doing this in sizable numbers.

To you it's not a convincing product, however you seem to be out of step with the actual market on this. Cadillac's CTS (and to a much lesser degree, the current STS) is doing well with luxury import buyers.

2. The Lincoln LS was dated from day one, hasn't aged well, and does feel like a quality car. This car trails the pack, and can't be considered a benchmark for any comparison.
I won't argue with you on the LS's style, since my tastes run towards "sleepers". However, you yourself stated that LS were great handling cars when I posted my observations on the one I rented Labor Day last year. The car isn't quite a benchmark, but it still is a mighty fine car. My only issue was that it's overpriced by $8-10,000. That's all.

3. The 300C Hemi has a truck motor, is styled like a cross between a Rolls-Royce and a concrete bunker, and has a wickedly downmarket badge. A Mercedes slushbox and rear suspension aren't enough to make a Chrysler a Mercedes. Witness the spectacular flop that is the Pacifica - or the growing inventory of Crossfires at my local dealer.
The LS1 is technically a "Truck Motor" with a different displacement and camshaft. Ford's 4.6 is also a "Truck Motor". Seems you are reaching once again when there isn't something really worth complaing about. The Hemi is the worlds newest designed V8 at the moment, putting out big engine power while reaching fuel mileage of many lower powered V6s from the Imports.

The G35 you mentioned earlier gets 24mpg highway, & 19mpg city with a 3.5L 260 horse, 260 torque 6 cylinder engine.
The 300C HEMI with roughly 345 horses, 375 torque, 5.7L engine is expected to get 20 & 25 mpg respectively in a car that weighs 700 pounds more than the G35.

Pacifica bombed at 1st because it was overpriced. It's picked up quite a bit since Chrysler brought out a lower priced version.

By emphasizing what the Pacifica wasn't, DaimlerChrysler neglected to tell its intended buyers what the Pacifica was. The company further confused matters by calling the Pacifica a "sports tourer." Nobody knew what that was, either. On top of it all, DaimlerChrysler added too much "content" -- luxury items such as satellite navigation systems.

That made the Pacifica's pricing, in the $38,000 to $40,000 range, too high for the mostly middle-class buyers who wanted it...

...DaimlerChrysler also stripped out some luxury items and lowered the price, making some Pacifica versions available at a base of about $30,000. But the company kept the Pacifica's Mercedes-Benz interior, which satisfied the upwardly mobile aspirations of its middle- and upper-middle-income buyers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true


As far as Cross fires piling up at your dealer:

The marketing launch of the all-new Chrysler Crossfire began July 7, and the low-volume sports coupe is already making a splash with 612 units sold nationwide.
http://www.fleet-central.com/af/newspick.cfm?rank=3351
Chrysler sold 578 of its sporty Crossfire roadsters. And the daily sales rate for the Pacifica, a minivan-SUV blend that got off to a poor start in March, increased 15% from August to September.
http://europe.autonews.com/page.cms?pageId=322
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...4692_db035.htm

Doubtful that Crossfires are stacking up at your local Chrysler dealer, there hasn't been that many produced just yet. And assuming that there were, I think your dealer wouldn't be buying them if he couldn't sell them.

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