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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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In the official rules list for its Dr. Z sweepstakes, DaimlerChrysler lists the 'Approximate Retail Value' of the 2008 Dodge Challenger R/T at $30,000. The R/T model has long been described as having a 425 horsepower 6.1 liter Hemi. Rumors have suggested the Challenger will be offered with a choice of two V8 engines and a manual transmission only. Planned production is believed to be in the ballpark of 30,000 units annually. Recent rumors have also indicated a 6.6-liter Hemi was in the works for a range-topping SRT Challenger. Chrysler has said the production Challenger will be identical to the concept.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Being that only 10-12,000 Mustang Cobras were sold at $35,000, 8-9,000 Mach 1s were sold at around $28,000, 11,000 Camaro SS at $30K, 7,000 Bullitt Mustangs at around $28K, 15,000 WS6s at $32,000, and finally, 14-17,000 GTOs at $32,000, I wonder where on earth this Challenger number of 30,000 annually at $30,000 comes from?

If I was going to start production number rumors, I'd at least make sales in the ballpark of what the competition has been selling.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Being that only 10-12,000 Mustang Cobras were sold at $35,000, 8-9,000 Mach 1s were sold at around $28,000, 11,000 Camaro SS at $30K, 7,000 Bullitt Mustangs at around $28K, 15,000 WS6s at $32,000, and finally, 14-17,000 GTOs at $32,000, I wonder where on earth this Challenger number of 30,000 annually at $30,000 comes from?

If I was going to start production number rumors, I'd at least make sales in the ballpark of what the competition has been selling.
how many do you think they will sell at that price? 20k?
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Being that only 10-12,000 Mustang Cobras were sold at $35,000, 8-9,000 Mach 1s were sold at around $28,000, 11,000 Camaro SS at $30K, 7,000 Bullitt Mustangs at around $28K, 15,000 WS6s at $32,000, and finally, 14-17,000 GTOs at $32,000, I wonder where on earth this Challenger number of 30,000 annually at $30,000 comes from?

If I was going to start production number rumors, I'd at least make sales in the ballpark of what the competition has been selling.
With the 6.1L hemi and being many years newer than Camaro SS's, WS6s, and Bullit mustangs, I'd say you're getting A LOT more for your money at $30k than any of the previously mentioned cars. Save for the GTO, which is 400hp LS2 for $30k. Still the Challenger with more HP and more daring styling looks to me like it'd sell better.

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With the 6.1L hemi and being many years newer than Camaro SS's, WS6s, and Bullit mustangs, I'd say you're getting A LOT more for your money at $30k than any of the previously mentioned cars. Save for the GTO, which is 400hp LS2 for $30k. Still the Challenger with more HP and more daring styling looks to me like it'd sell better.

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I would NOT call the Challenger's bodywork daring, retro yes but not daring.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Go around most enthusiast message boards and people generally drool over the Challenger. It will be interesting to see, when pricing is announced and the chips are down, how many of these people actually follow through on their claims and buy one.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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I would NOT call the Challenger's bodywork daring, retro yes but not daring.
Maybe not daring. . . (and I knew someone would call me on it), but it is very unique compared to what other car makers are doing.

It has to be one of the most, if not the most, retro car out there, but yet it has 20" & 21" wheels on it.

IMO, being *THAT* retro with modern details is daring. It hasn't been done to this extent yet.

I guess the thing is, I'm not sure if they'd sell a ton at $30k, but at that price it is a bargain when you consider that the Charger or Magnum at $31k or $32k only come with the smaller 340hp Hemi.
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Maybe not daring. . . (and I knew someone would call me on it), but it is very unique compared to what other car makers are doing.

It has to be one of the most, if not the most, retro car out there, but yet it has 20" & 21" wheels on it.

IMO, being *THAT* retro with modern details is daring. It hasn't been done to this extent yet.

I guess the thing is, I'm not sure if they'd sell a ton at $30k, but at that price it is a bargain when you consider that the Charger or Magnum at $31k or $32k only come with the smaller 340hp Hemi.
Unique is a much better word for the Challenger's design. That being said the other LX cars will sell at higher volume levels if nothing more than increased utility over the coupe. I don't think that 30K is reasonable but then again I am not in the car business so we will see.
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You know, it may be very hard choosing between a Camaro and a Challenger when the time comes. The Challenger is retro, and it's fat, yes, but it's distinctive, and (this is most important) . . .

I actually have a decent idea of what it will look like.

Chrysler stated that it will look just like the concept. That's encouraging, because the car looks GOOD.

Whereas GM has said they'll do something "similar" to the Camaro concept. Given the transformations we've seen between GM concept and production in the past, this isn't giving me any warm and fuzzy feelings here.

The Camaro could be great . . . but I really hope we know what it's REALLY going to look like by the time I can place an order for a Challenger.
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Chrysler stated that it will look just like the concept.

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Whereas GM has said they'll do something "similar" to the Camaro concept.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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If this is true, then it will be a bargain at 30K. I wonder what the 392 Hemi equipped Challenger will cost?
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Well, the challenger will give everyone in the 'mobile estates' something to work hard towards for many years to come. The only Mopar fans I know, have less disposable income than teeth....and that's giving them a lot of 'credit'....oh snap! hahaha I slay myself sometimes.
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I sit corrected. This is GOOD news. Given that "almost identical" in GM-speak really means "almost identical," the choice is looking to be a lot more difficult. Probably'll come down to who gets a convertible out first.
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Re: Challenger pricing.........

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Unique is a much better word for the Challenger's design. That being said the other LX cars will sell at higher volume levels if nothing more than increased utility over the coupe. I don't think that 30K is reasonable but then again I am not in the car business so we will see.

Unique? Have you ever looked at a Challenger before? It's a complete lift, there is nothing unique about it except that it's got bigger wheels.
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Unique? Have you ever looked at a Challenger before? It's a complete lift, there is nothing unique about it except that it's got bigger wheels.
Agreed completely.

But back on topic, I think the sales will come in the first few years and then taper off quite a bit afterwards. It's obvious that a lot of people plan on buying them (that I've talked to anyway) and I'm sure they'll be able to sell that many.



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