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Old May 31, 2008 | 04:00 AM
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Challenger 2 for 2 versus Mustang

Motortrend put a Challenger up against the 500hp GT500, while C&D put one up against the Bullitt. In spite of the 250 and 650 pound weight advantage for the Mustang, the Challenger won both encounters.

In the Challenger vs Bullitt test, the Challenger was a bit faster (in spite of the Bullitt having a manual to the Challenger's auto), and the test mileage was 19 for the Challenger versus 21 MPG for the Mustang.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm having a hard time getting worked up over those 2 MPG that the Challenger gives up for its extra weight ...
Old May 31, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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I would pick the Challenger hands down, based on looks.
Old May 31, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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I'd choose it based on everything.
Old May 31, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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GT500 > challenger for awesome power and simple bolt ons to make it a 10 second car
Old May 31, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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I can see the plusses for both cars, and I have alot of respect for both.

The Shelby GT500 puts out a godawful amount of horsepower, and the amount of engineering that went into making the handling overcome the weight of the car is by every imaginable measure impressive.

The Challenger SRT, despite resembling the original and being the poster child of retro and weighing 2 tons, is also impressive. It has killer brakes, accelerates like mad, and has enough interior and trunk room to make the ultimate cross country or at least long distance performance machine.

My hope is that Camaro splits the 2.

Camaro has IRS like Challenger, and is a handler like the Mustang, and I expect both are done better in the Camaro.
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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My hope is that Camaro splits the 2.

Camaro has IRS like Challenger, and is a handler like the Mustang, and I expect both are done better in the Camaro.
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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should be better.
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Just watched a motorweek with the challenger.........god I want that car. Sucks that these cars are coming out now instead of the early part of the decade. I would have eventually had one each of the mustang, challenger, and camaro in my garage. Every day that hope looks pretty less likely with the way gas is.
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Just watched a motorweek with the challenger.........god I want that car. Sucks that these cars are coming out now instead of the early part of the decade. I would have eventually had one each of the mustang, challenger, and camaro in my garage. Every day that hope looks pretty less likely with the way gas is.
Actually more likely. Powerful cars with V8 engines will be cheaper to buy used.
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Actually more likely. Powerful cars with V8 engines will be cheaper to buy used.
Absolutely and they already are....just take a look. The problem is gas!
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Just watched a motorweek with the challenger.........god I want that car. Sucks that these cars are coming out now instead of the early part of the decade. I would have eventually had one each of the mustang, challenger, and camaro in my garage. Every day that hope looks pretty less likely with the way gas is.
You bring up a good point. These cars SHOULD have come out at least 5 years ago!

If these cars had started coming out in the 2002-2003 timeframe, along with the current automakers investment in cars instead of just trucks & SUVs and emphasis on quality and useful (as opposed to gimmicky) innovation, the entire US auto industry would be in far better shape, and probably would be viewed better than imports by now IMO.
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Without having driven either one, my preferences definitely lean toward the Mustang...

If I needed a bigger backseat, I could see it going the other way. But I love the looks of the current Mustang.

A GT (or GT500) convertible would be in my garage before the Challenger.

Old Jun 2, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
If these cars had started coming out in the 2002-2003 timeframe, along with the current automakers investment in cars instead of just trucks & SUVs and emphasis on quality and useful (as opposed to gimmicky) innovation, the entire US auto industry would be in far better shape, and probably would be viewed better than imports by now IMO.
Agreed 100% "Giving the customers what they want" seems to be the excuse given out by the American OEMs whenever they find themselves looking backwards on a once-hot fad. I would love to see Detroit getting out in front of trends again (it's what they did with SUVs, but that was more a case of the stars aligning just right and not so much an example of great product planning).
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
You bring up a good point. These cars SHOULD have come out at least 5 years ago!

If these cars had started coming out in the 2002-2003 timeframe, along with the current automakers investment in cars instead of just trucks & SUVs and emphasis on quality and useful (as opposed to gimmicky) innovation, the entire US auto industry would be in far better shape, and probably would be viewed better than imports by now IMO.
Word!
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
I can see the plusses for both cars, and I have alot of respect for both.

The Shelby GT500 puts out a godawful amount of horsepower, and the amount of engineering that went into making the handling overcome the weight of the car is by every imaginable measure impressive.

The Challenger SRT, despite resembling the original and being the poster child of retro and weighing 2 tons, is also impressive. It has killer brakes, accelerates like mad, and has enough interior and trunk room to make the ultimate cross country or at least long distance performance machine.

My hope is that Camaro splits the 2.

Camaro has IRS like Challenger, and is a handler like the Mustang, and I expect both are done better in the Camaro.
Camaro should smash the two.

The only people not buying a Camaro will be the Chrysler/Ford diehards. You won't be able to fault the Camaro on power, handling, mpg, or modability.

Just my opinion.



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