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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Which Car is More American?

Far be it from me to add fuel to this fire; but…

The ambiguity that exists between 'American' and 'Foreign' autos is growing as globalization increases, and it has some consumers confused. The world is no longer as simple as us vs. them, Detroit against the Asians and Europeans. It's a global industry now, in which all manufacturers are touching their auto making toes on the shores of just about every industrialized nation. According to USA Today, Even GM, long the icon of American industry, hedges its bets. "We're very proud for the economic role we play in this country," says GM spokesman Greg Martin. "However, we're a global car company that happens to be based in the United States." Consider the possibilities: Foreign cars made in the USA, such as Honda's Ohio-built Accord competing with American cars made abroad, like Ford's hit Fusion sedan, competing with famous American names with foreign owners, such as Dodge's new Nitro SUV, owned by Germany's DaimlerChrysler. The confusion pains Joe Luehrmann, 48. Hoping to reach a decision soon about his next car, he's looking at everything. He's a believer in American cars, but, says with a tinge of regret, "I don't feel any great loyalty anymore."
USA Today Story: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...can-usat_N.htm

USA Today Chart: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...nt-chart_N.htm
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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I've been saying this for ages now - I understand that over the average, buying a GM product keeps more money in the US than buying the average foreign vehicle, but there are MANY MANY cases where that is not at all the truth.

One of my best friends is an HVAC tech - he bought a Honda Accord and all of the dumb rednecks he works with rag on him for buying a foreign car and not supporting the domestic economy. Little do they realize his Accord sourced 85% of its parts from the US and was built in Ohio, while their redneckmobile with a Dodge badge on it is only 50% domestic parts and made in Mexico... plus half-owned by the Germans at the corporate level.

(ps - yes I know that chart says Accord = 70%, however his window sticker states 85%, so that's what I'm going by)
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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I'm more brand loyal than anything else. I'll buy a Chevy over any other vehicle, regardless of where its built, or where the majority of its parts are fabricated.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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wow some of those numbers were surprising to me. to be honest i thought more of the cobalt would have been produced out of the country i dont know why but i did.

im surprised at honda and Nissan numbers as well. i still wouldn’t buy them but i feel that is my personal preference and right. although i never have bashed any body for buying an import i only tell them when there looking to give the domestic a fair look as well. well i do bust on my friends but all in good fun.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Well that settles it! I can now rationalize to myself why I buy my Nissan or Toyota and can sleep well at night knowing that I am actually helping the United States and all of it's people by purchasing a foreign car. That's great news. Boy was I wrong before. Long live imports!


"He's a believer in American cars, but, says with a tinge of regret, "I don't feel any great loyalty anymore." "

That's what's wrong with this country. You may say, well, it is just a car or a product, but this mentality runs much deeper than that and is more widespread. There is a large segment of the population that feels this way and is totally indifferent or hateful towards this country and all that it does and to me, it is apauling.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Well that settles it! I can now rationalize to myself why I buy my Nissan or Toyota and can sleep well at night knowing that I am actually helping the United States and all of it's people by purchasing a foreign car. That's great news. Boy was I wrong before. Long live imports!
Pretty much.

The chart was pretty interesting. I think it shows, most definitely in Hyundai's case, the difference between "built" in America and "assembled" in America.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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It appears the most "American" car is the Ford Econoline Van. 95% US content and assembled in Ohio.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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It pretty interesting to start comparing the higher margin cars.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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As long as Bowling Green, Kentucky is still in the good ole U.S. of A., I think I'm covered.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
"He's a believer in American cars, but, says with a tinge of regret, "I don't feel any great loyalty anymore." "

That's what's wrong with this country. You may say, well, it is just a car or a product, but this mentality runs much deeper than that and is more widespread. There is a large segment of the population that feels this way and is totally indifferent or hateful towards this country and all that it does and to me, it is apauling.
Well, that's one way to look at it, but if GM is going to take our money and start using it to run off to China and build plants to make engines for the US market...I'm not feeling too good about the return on my money in that case.

You can apply that to Duhbya allowing anchor babies to steal your Medicaid now...but, that's another topic for another thread for another day.

Still feel loyal(ty)?

I didn't think so.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 78montecarlo
It appears the most "American" car is the Ford Econoline Van. 95% US content and assembled in Ohio.
It's also probably the oldest design. The auto industry is becoming more and more a global industry.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Most American car: Whatever brand that can influence the mass consumer's perception the best. Obviously GM, Ford, and Dodge have the advantage here.


Although this quote, brings back the shock of reality.... If I was a GM spokesman, I don't think I would want to be quoted saying this.
"We're very proud for the economic role we play in this country," says GM spokesman Greg Martin. "However, we're a global car company that happens to be based in the United States."
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