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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Camaro prototypes on the road before Chrismas

The following article is from http://www.drive.com.au/.

I have highlighted some good bits. Don't know if it should be in this forum or the Fifth gen forum but this will do for now.

Camaro on the comeback
Joshua Dowling, The Sydney Morning Herald, 01/12/06

Australians will see the Chevrolet super-coupe before Americans, writes JOSHUA DOWLING.

The modern-day version of the 1960s American muscle car, the Chevrolet Camaro, will be on local roads before Christmas.

But you won't be able to buy one just yet: the cars will be handbuilt prototypes that Holden and a team of US engineers are developing for General Motors in Detroit ahead of the car's North American release in early 2008.

Following the success of the Holden Monaro export program (the Australian-made coupe was sold as a Pontiac GTO in the US), the team at Holden is leading the final design, engineering and development of the Camaro.

However, the new Camaro will not be made in Australia. GM has confirmed it will be built in Canada from late next year.

Denny Mooney, the boss of Holden, told Drive this week: "We are building prototype Camaros right now. We should see some on the roads before Christmas."

GM's highly regarded Korean-born designer, Sang Yup, has been working alongside Holden designers in Melbourne to transform the car from concept to reality.

The Camaro was unveiled at the Detroit motor show last January and American enthusiasts instantly demanded it be built.

Holden is closely linked to the program because the Camaro shares underpinnings with the new Commodore.

At this stage there are plans to build the Camaro only as a left-hand-drive for North America but the Holden boss is on record saying he would like to sell the car in Australia.

Drive understands Holden has conducted a study on whether the car - were it to be sold here - should be called a Chevrolet Camaro or wear a Holden badge. The verdict: Chevrolet Camaro was the preferred option, given the awareness of the name from the 1970s 80s thanks to racers such as Bob Jane and Kevin Bartlett and the muscle car scene of the time.

Meanwhile, Holden seems close to finalising a deal to export its flagship Commodore sports sedan, the SS-V, to the US as a Pontiac Grand Prix. Holden says it cannot confirm whether the deal has been approved but Mooney says he has a "good feeling about it".

Industry insiders have told Drive that GM in the US is close to making the announcement and may be saving the news for the Chicago motor show in February.

Holden exported 40,808 Monaro coupes to the US between 2003 and 2006 but expects the latest export deal to be more lucrative, with plans to export up to 30,000 Commodores as Pontiacs each year.

Holden exported 3520 Monaros in 2003, 16,299 in 2004, 11,729 in 2005 and 9260 in the first seven months of 2006.

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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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well merry christmas to them too! awesome news!
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Geez could they ship ONE to Milford to test? Australia is like a $3000 plane ticket.
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Too many people in the states know someone else when it comes the this kind of thing. If they do it there they made the right choice.
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Geez could they ship ONE to Milford to test? Australia is like a $3000 plane ticket.
Wouldn't you rather be here though, and get to ride in the upcoming z06 racecar?
They got to be giving out free rides pretty soon. I can't imagine the power increase on a supercharged engine like that in the winter. *shutters with excitement*
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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OK, some Aussie needs to snap pictures and snag some video of it in action. I wonder if the ragtop is floating around down there?
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by number77
Wouldn't you rather be here though, and get to ride in the upcoming z06 racecar?
They got to be giving out free rides pretty soon. I can't imagine the power increase on a supercharged engine like that in the winter. *shutters with excitement*
Hah, well.....no.

Besides I dont think the free rides are coming anytime soon. Everything I've seen so far for the super vette points to an SOP date at 15/16/17 months away.
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CD/BP
Geez could they ship ONE to Milford to test? Australia is like a $3000 plane ticket.
However, you and I both know you'd net at least triple that in sales.
Old Nov 30, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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However, you and I both know you'd net at least triple that in sales.
Heh, well....I dont know that it would do THAT well.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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That news would have to be one of the biggest disappointments, if you ask me... Having a Camaro drive around in the streets of Melbourne, possibly knowing that it will not be sold here is like being involved on a **** set... in the role of cameraman.
Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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Geez could they ship ONE to Milford to test? Australia is like a $3000 plane ticket.
Qantas has an internet special that expires 11:59 PM today ($1048 RT) or a round trip that includes a 3 city airpass ($1299) that expires the 7th (both from LA or San Francisco.... add $360 round trip from the east coast, less as you get closer to the west). Prices are going to jump about $6-800 in December because of the summer season, but it's still heaps less than $3,000.

When I went, I bought the 3 city airpass, and had a big surprize: the unannounced price had dropped to $850 plus taxes for the whole shebang.

Qantas is the best way to get over there because unlike US carriers:
1. you actually have some decent seat room for long flights
2. each seat has their own TV screen entertainment system and DVD library of almost recent movies with free headsets
3. wine, beer, & champaign is complementary
4. All of this is in coach!

Top it off, you come with a published lower price from anyone else, & they'll match it, and their safety record is spotless (one of the only airlines on the planet that hasn't lost a plane in a major crash).

Happy hunting, and I'll be checking my e-mail.

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Top it off, you come with a published lower price from anyone else, & they'll match it, and their safety record is spotless (one of the only airlines on the planet that hasn't lost a plane in a major crash).
Which is why Raymond would only fly them

Charlie: Ray, all airlines have crashed at one time or another, that doesn't mean that they are not safe.
Raymond: QANTAS. QANTAS never crashed.
Charlie: QANTAS?
Raymond: Never crashed.
Charlie: Oh that's gonna do me a lot of good because QANTAS doesn't fly to Los Angeles out of Cincinnati, you have to get to Melbourne! Melbourne, Australia in order to get the plane that flies to Los Angeles!
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