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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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I'm a newer member here, and i wanted to post my 2 cents about a new Camaro, and i was also curious how i would go about contacting people at GM to get my ideas across. I know the new Camaro needs soul, but from what GM proved with the GTO, it has anything but, and i believe that a car that embraces it's family history taking the best DNA from all the other Camaros should be birthed. This should have a beautiful body lines, like the first generation cars, the stance of a fire breathing, ground pounding opponent desimating land rocket. The interior should have the 69' Houndstooth seating style, a push button ignition, 6 speed manual transmission as standard, along with a new generation of motor, a LS2 with 400hp would be excellent. Maybe i'm just spitting into the wind, but i feel that being a multiple Camaro owner, that i should get my opinions out there. I love these cars, and as their name implys, these cars have been great friends of mine, and i could never turn my back on them. So GM needs to make some good decisioins here based on the people, not bean counters who think that we need a 4 door Camaro (exageration of my anger) Thanks for listening
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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So you want a '69 with an engine swap and a new interior?
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Re: The Camaro Needs Soul!

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The interior should have the 69' Houndstooth seating style....
....and Chevy dealers could sell matching "Houndstooth" pants, jackets and hats.
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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....and Chevy dealers could sell matching "Houndstooth" pants, jackets and hats.

Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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they also had a short lived musical for the Camaro too.. lmao

didn't the design philosophy change for the 2nd gens, when whats his name took over, and decided the Camaro should be low slung and sleeker like the Italian exotic cars? Some detail I remember hearing in the Automobile class I took.. (btw, that class was not as exciting as I thought it would be)



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....and Chevy dealers could sell matching "Houndstooth" pants, jackets and hats.
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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So you want a '69 with an engine swap and a new interior?
Sounds about right...
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Re: The Camaro Needs Soul!

Originally Posted by Destructo
I'm a newer member here, and i wanted to post my 2 cents about a new Camaro, and i was also curious how i would go about contacting people at GM to get my ideas across. I know the new Camaro needs soul, but from what GM proved with the GTO, it has anything but, and i believe that a car that embraces it's family history taking the best DNA from all the other Camaros should be birthed. This should have a beautiful body lines, like the first generation cars, the stance of a fire breathing, ground pounding opponent desimating land rocket. The interior should have the 69' Houndstooth seating style, a push button ignition, 6 speed manual transmission as standard, along with a new generation of motor, a LS2 with 400hp would be excellent. Maybe i'm just spitting into the wind, but i feel that being a multiple Camaro owner, that i should get my opinions out there. I love these cars, and as their name implys, these cars have been great friends of mine, and i could never turn my back on them. So GM needs to make some good decisioins here based on the people, not bean counters who think that we need a 4 door Camaro (exageration of my anger) Thanks for listening
SOUL
Camaro has plenty of "soul". Anyone who doesn't think so hasn't had one. As for the GTO, I'd have to say anyone who hasn't driven one doesn't know. Every performance car doesn't have to look like a transformer. GTO is more of a buttoned down James Bond, as opposed to a pro wrestler.

DESIGN
Design is completly subjective. There is a contingency here that loves the 4th gen, another that thinks the 3rd gen is what Camaro was all about, another that thinks Camaro should go back to the basics of the 1st gen, and a few like me who think the 2nd gen looked best. But one thing is certain, Camaro has always been about looking forward, not backward in design. Each design since the 1st gen was a leap in design over the previous one, and showstoppers. No doubt the next one will continue that tradition.

PERFORMANCE
The idea of performance at the expense of everything else has officially been disproven. It's lying in the grave with the cold, dead, and long forgotten 4th gen (even when it was still in production, people were surprised GM still made them!). More than anything else, the next Camaro has to appeal to a wider audience. This means more "user friendliness" & better quality of materials and assembly. The 4the gen is the only Camaro that hands down out ran it's competitors. It no doubt had the look of a car that would do some serious damage to anyone dumb enough to race one. It also has the distinction of being the only Camaro outsold by Mustang by a nearly 3 to 1 margin (2 to 1 most of it's life). Performance is great, but if a car can't justify it's existence in the market place, it simply ain't going to happen.

BEANCOUNTERS
A company's purpose is to make money. If something isn't going to make money, a business quite simply isn't going to do it. The more you want in a car, the more it's going to cost. RWD performance buyers are not even a drop in the bucket in the overall scheme of car sales. Corvettes are priced where they can't help but make money. Mustangs make money on sheer volume. Assuming there are nearly 5,000 Chevrolet dealers nationwide, and Camaro sales averaged 30,000 cars per year, that means each dealer sold an average of just 6 Camaros a year. A small drop considering the 1 million cars Chevrolet alone sells annually (about 200 per month, per dealer). If the car is going to have any hope, it's going to have to either be dirt cheap to make, or sell to the masses. No one's going to give the things away (unless it helps CAFE figures).
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Every performance car doesn't have to look like a transformer.
Amen x 100
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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welcome to the board, Destructo!!!!
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