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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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LAS VEGAS – Cadillac unveils a new vision for the future of luxury transportation with the innovative Provoq fuel cell concept – a hydrogen fuel cell crossover vehicle that continues GM's commitment to displace petroleum through advanced technology.

The Cadillac Provoq fuel cell concept is the latest example of GM's groundbreaking E-Flex propulsion system, combining the new fifth-generation fuel cell system and a lithium-ion battery to produce an electrically driven vehicle that uses no petroleum and has no emission other than water. The concept's fifth-generation fuel cell technology is half the size of its predecessor, yet it has been developed to produce more power and performance.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Nice! I like everything about it except for some of the details on the belt line.

The interior and exterior looks are very similar to what I was expecting if not outright assuming Cadillac was going to be doing with the SRX after its success with the CTS.

But since this is apparently just a concept, anyone have any idea when the new SRX will be out and if it's going to be something similar?
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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the Vue bloodlines really do show through.

I love the front end and the back end (and the roof) but the rest of it just doesnt do anything for me.

What can I say... its just not quite as Provoqative as I'd have liked!
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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But since this is apparently just a concept, anyone have any idea when the new SRX will be out and if it's going to be something similar?
I'd almost guess this is a production BRX in disguise (minus the concept powertrain of course) Think 2003 Pontiac G-Force concept, Buick Enclave concept, or the Chrysler 300 concept.

The interior looks 99% production ready, and so does the exterior minus the solar roof, wheels, and door handles. I expect to see this vehicle on the streets sometime in 2009.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Do we really need "another crossover"? Sure it looks good, but dang.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Any idea what the solar roof powers?
They power the car. This is an electric car with hydrogen fuel cell to generate electricity. Solar charges the batteries.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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They power the car. This is an electric car with hydrogen fuel cell to generate electricity. Solar charges the batteries.
Ok, I guess I needed to read that part. Now its a cool car.

My question is, why can't they do the same thing with a Camaro.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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In honesty Visod Automoile Corporation has planned to develop an electric vehicle with 80% of the body covered in solar panels. Most of that to power things such as turning signals, radio, heater, A/C.

We at this time see that GM has taken the first step in making our goals possible by laying some ground work in this concept.

We would also like to express to those who may not know that by having solar panels, your vehicle will recharge a battery for which that happens all the time it gathers enough light bounce electrons around. Saving you the need for large alternators as your batteries will start to shrink and thus not require such huge amounts of reenergizing.
Is there an English translation of that available?

I think the main issue with solar cells is the cost/benefit ratio. I'm guessing a panel like on that Caddy's roof might generate 50-100 watts, which isn't a whole lot. With that kind of meagre output (4-8 amps), you won't be reducing your alternator or battery size any. And even if it was substantial enough to offset some of the load, you'd still have to size your alternator and battery to handle things at night, and loads are usually higher at night anyhow.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Styling is a bit derivitive, but it looks handsome enough. I really like the interior. Very modern. *cough*
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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It's hard to make a Vue look like a Caddy but they have done a great job IMO.
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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I saw the name Provoq in the forum list, and immediately started hoping to see something along the lines of the Evoq concept from a few years ago. With a low-slung sports car in mind (and the existence of the production XLR somehow escaping my mind), I found this thread a little disappointing.

Now that I've reset my expectations, I think it looks pretty cool. I like the mini tailfins. I think that there's room in Cadillac's lineup for a smaller crossover, and I think there's room in the market too.

Regarding the solar panel on top -- it's certainly not going to help anything when the car is running, but what about when it's sitting outside in the parking lot at work all day, and there's nowhere to plug it in to charge the battery? The solar panel can charge it while it sits. In certain climates, it could make a significant difference every day in the cost of keeping the car charged. Even outside of those climates, it's going to make a contribution, and every little bit of free energy helps.

I agree that it looks very production ready. Even the wheels, sideview mirrors, and steering wheel look like production items! I expect the initial production version would not be powered by a hydrogen fuel cell, but by a gasoline engine (and probably with a gas-electric hybrid as an option). Even then, I'm betting it would be a home run!
Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Ok, I guess I needed to read that part. Now its a cool car.

My question is, why can't they do the same thing with a Camaro.
People are bitching about hips, antennas (ME ) and guages, I don't think solar panels would go over too well
Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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I like it.
Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
I saw the name Provoq in the forum list, and immediately started hoping to see something along the lines of the Evoq concept from a few years ago. With a low-slung sports car in mind (and the existence of the production XLR somehow escaping my mind), I found this thread a little disappointing.
Great minds think alike!

I too thought the same. The Evoq was much sharper than the dumbed-down-for-production XLR with is rakier lines and bigger wheels. Ah well...

Another thought that came into my head was what I considered beautiful at the time, IMAJ concept, that was rumored to become the new RWD luxury sedan until Lutz asked for a redesign and gave us the STS. Looking back, I think Lutz made the right call.


Old Jan 9, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
To me it looks clearly Theta-based (think Saturn Vue, not Pontiac Vibe).

I know. I was just refering to the fact that with regard to the side view, from the A pillar on back it looks a lot like a vibe.



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