C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Our Av is extremely quiet and smooth on the road, even when the road isn't. I feel it rides more comfortably than my parents brand new Camry.. Its just big and heavy if you have to do any tight space driving. Well, the more bigger bumps can be probably be better dampened.. but besides that, I love riding in it.. its roomy and comfortable.
My friend thats a died hard Audi fan was even impressed on how quiet it was down the road.
Only thing I duon't like about it is if you got osmeone sitting in the backseat that braces himself with his knee against the door around a corner, the door plastic panel sqeeks. GM was so close to making an almost squeek free vehicle.
Coming from an Av owner, one thing I do like about the Ridgeline is the two way tailgate.. The "trunk" feature is sorta neat too. The bed is actually about the same interior length and width as the Av.. although it doesn't have the midgate feature.
I hear (altough not confirmed) that people are only getting 15-17 mpg in the Ridgeline.. Thats what we get in our Av..
My friend thats a died hard Audi fan was even impressed on how quiet it was down the road.
Only thing I duon't like about it is if you got osmeone sitting in the backseat that braces himself with his knee against the door around a corner, the door plastic panel sqeeks. GM was so close to making an almost squeek free vehicle.
Coming from an Av owner, one thing I do like about the Ridgeline is the two way tailgate.. The "trunk" feature is sorta neat too. The bed is actually about the same interior length and width as the Av.. although it doesn't have the midgate feature.
I hear (altough not confirmed) that people are only getting 15-17 mpg in the Ridgeline.. Thats what we get in our Av..
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by ProudPony
"Carlike"... is that even a word?!?!
GM and Ford have done "carlike" "trucks" since 1963... Ranchero anyone? El Camino?
Big whopetydoo.
IMO, Honda is trying to lay claim to some truck buyers - especially those people who think there is Honda cars, and "the other stuff". The Blinded Honda owner that needs something to haul home a flowerpot will buy it - done. Can't blame them for trying to grab some market.
Will I ever consider one? Not in a billion years.
OK. Then I chose both these 2 reasons to bash it.
I worked my '88 Ranger 4x4 like a pack mule in the Grand Canyon for 12 years, then sold it to pay towards my F250 SuperDuty PowerStroke. I don't "ride around" in my trucks, I use the sh1+ out of them. I wouldn't put 1500lbs behind a Honda, much less 6500.
I don't like Hondas. I don't like the brick-shaped front end of this truck-wanna-be, and I think it is more stupider than stupid to put a storage compartment UNDER the floor of a truck bed.
You will never need anything in that storage compartment until you have 500lbs of crap piled up on the door.
Heck, maybe I'll design a shower with the soap holder on the floor and the drain in the side wall so the soap won't ever fall out of the holder, and the drain won't get clogged-up with hair anymore - that's a novel idea too.
Like Pacer said....
NEXT.
GM and Ford have done "carlike" "trucks" since 1963... Ranchero anyone? El Camino?
Big whopetydoo.
IMO, Honda is trying to lay claim to some truck buyers - especially those people who think there is Honda cars, and "the other stuff". The Blinded Honda owner that needs something to haul home a flowerpot will buy it - done. Can't blame them for trying to grab some market.
Will I ever consider one? Not in a billion years.
OK. Then I chose both these 2 reasons to bash it.
I worked my '88 Ranger 4x4 like a pack mule in the Grand Canyon for 12 years, then sold it to pay towards my F250 SuperDuty PowerStroke. I don't "ride around" in my trucks, I use the sh1+ out of them. I wouldn't put 1500lbs behind a Honda, much less 6500.
I don't like Hondas. I don't like the brick-shaped front end of this truck-wanna-be, and I think it is more stupider than stupid to put a storage compartment UNDER the floor of a truck bed.
You will never need anything in that storage compartment until you have 500lbs of crap piled up on the door.
Heck, maybe I'll design a shower with the soap holder on the floor and the drain in the side wall so the soap won't ever fall out of the holder, and the drain won't get clogged-up with hair anymore - that's a novel idea too.
Like Pacer said....
NEXT.
The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger. Your opinion is only that, an opinion. The fact is, it's very capable.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by 3SuperSports
Thanks for the intelligent response. The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger. Your opinion is only that, an opinion. The fact is, it's very capable.
The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger. Your opinion is only that, an opinion. The fact is, it's very capable.Its not in the rangers segment. Look at the price diffrence. Its in it's own segment....one that no one wanted.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by 3SuperSports
Thanks for the intelligent response. The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger.
The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by 3SuperSports
Thanks for the intelligent response. The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger. Your opinion is only that, an opinion. The fact is, it's very capable.
The point is, it does more than just about every truck in its segment, even the Ranger. Your opinion is only that, an opinion. The fact is, it's very capable.
It's ugly either way, though (as was the Avalanche before they offered the "naked" version with the normal pickup front end, which helps quite a bit)... And I find it amusing how it gets high scores for interior style/design when a) it is made of hard plastics, just like *gasp* EVERY truck in that category, and b) its overall style, shape, and uprightness rather suggest the current Silverado/Sierra dash, which is constantly being ridiculed by the magazines. :blah:
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Even my dad laughed his a@@ off at Honda when he heard about the Ridgeline being a unibody with a transversly mounted engine. This coming from a guy who has owned an 85 & 88 Toyota pickup, a T100, and a 2004 Tacoma.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Think the the Ridgeline as a semi-luxury truck that is somewhere between a 1/2-ton and compact truck in size. If you equip a colorado with all the options that the Ridgeline comes with standard, their prices are very similar (well... until you start getting all the GM employee discounts and rebates and such... but thus is the case with almost any GM car compared to almost any foreign car, you can almost always get the GM car less $$).
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by AronZ28
Even my dad laughed his a@@ off at Honda when he heard about the Ridgeline being a unibody with a transversly mounted engine. This coming from a guy who has owned an 85 & 88 Toyota pickup, a T100, and a 2004 Tacoma.
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I certainly didn't mean to start an internet pissing match with this thread. My original intent was to draw atttention to C&D publishing criticism similar to that which we have seen on this board. As much as we deservedly bash them on this board for their bias, I thought that it was admirable that they would give their critics room to vent. Their comparison tests are biased, but I like their attitude and sense of humor. People who get into these heated arguements over the particular merits of a Honda could stand a little humor in their lives.
The market will determine whether the Ridgeline is a good vehicle or not, and although I'll never buy one, I'm sure some folks will find that they suit their purposes quite well.
The market will determine whether the Ridgeline is a good vehicle or not, and although I'll never buy one, I'm sure some folks will find that they suit their purposes quite well.
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There is a reason why the Titan has been so successful in the full truck segment. Its an import brand but it's competeing like an American truck. They looked at what the American buyer wanted and created it. Honda did not care if there was really a market for it. They thought people would buy it anyway. They did this with the Element and it was hot for a while. Now it's ice cold. You would think they would learn.
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Gotta love those sales figures:
(dont forget to add the Colorado and Canyon)
July US sales & 2005 US totals
Tacoma 16,410 --- 94,342
Colorado 16,113 --- 91,500
Ranger 16,223 --- 75,673
Dakota 13,567 --- 69,116
Frontier 7,749 --- 42,229
Canyon 4,555 --- 24,801
Ridgeline 3,911 --- 18,166
(dont forget to add the Colorado and Canyon)
July US sales & 2005 US totals
Tacoma 16,410 --- 94,342
Colorado 16,113 --- 91,500
Ranger 16,223 --- 75,673
Dakota 13,567 --- 69,116
Frontier 7,749 --- 42,229
Canyon 4,555 --- 24,801
Ridgeline 3,911 --- 18,166
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by falchulk
There is a reason why the Titan has been so successful in the full truck segment. Its an import brand but it's competeing like an American truck. They looked at what the American buyer wanted and created it. Honda did not care if there was really a market for it. They thought people would buy it anyway. They did this with the Element and it was hot for a while. Now it's ice cold. You would think they would learn.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by Threxx
And I'm sure your dad did this laughing even though he knew the Ridgeline uses body on frame architecture that is further enhanced by unibody architecture, leading to the most rigid overall truck chassis on the market today?
Where did you see that about the Ridgeline being the stiffest truck?
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by PacerX
Yeah, but I think the jury is still out on the Titan. I seem to remember some stuff about it missing sales targets.
Its doing better this year then last. It's doing very well.
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Re: C&D Publishes Reaction to Ridgeine Winning Pickup Comparo
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
Got any numbers on that? Not being a punk, but I'm curious. For a while the automakers used to publish the stiffness numbers and/or natural frequency of a new car's chassis (25 Hz BMWs and Auroras, xxxx lbs/degree bending stiffness, etc.). Seems like they don't do it as much anymore, because aside from convertibles, it seems that most chassis/platforms are reasonably stiff anymore. I've never seen any bending or twisting numbers for any of the trucks though... I know the GMT800 frame is a stout one, but I don't know numbers. Sometimes they'll say "xx% increase in bending/torsional stiffness over the previous model", but I haven't heard any numbers. I think the Colorado/Canyon were touted as some crazy increase over the S10, like 200% or something.
Where did you see that about the Ridgeline being the stiffest truck?
Where did you see that about the Ridgeline being the stiffest truck?
Just an interesting (to me at least) observation.
We may all now return to calling the Ridgerunt the turd it is.
