I just saw a article where the GT ran a 12.xx at no where near 131 so that is not quite so cut and dry. If I remember correctly, you are stating the C&D numbers and if I also remember correctly, that was not just some random GT, it was strait from Ford well before they were to go on sale.

Wait a few more months when you see a lot more tests from the ZO6 and then we can pick the bests ones.

 

Even those are technically in a different class though you really couldn't tell performance wise.

 

And a different tax bracket for sure.

 

My point is that no one is going to cross shop an Enzo/Murcielago with a Ford GT/ C6 ZO6 even with taking away performance from the equation. This topic has been discussed many times on here.

By the way, who are these people that mentioned an Enzo and Murcielago with a ZO6, because I have never seen that anywhere?

 

I just got my C&D in the mail and read the article. From the looks of it, all the figures are just projections of what they (MT) think the car will run/perform. It isn't/wasn't an actual test. Atleast that's what i got from it.

Other projections they made.

*Skid in the 0.91-0.94 range
*70mph-0mph braking under 170'
*price point: somewhere between 36,000 and 39,000. Potential price point offered by SVT.
*Output: somewhere between 450hp and 500hp and the same for tq. Like pricing, SVT was vague about this too.

Basically, the whole article was estimate-based.

Other bits of info.
*twin screw Lysholm dropped for Eaton R122 roots due to availability as previously mentioned.
* The GT500 is getting extensive wind-tunnel testing for right balance of downforce and aero drag.
*Tires and such seem to have been upgraded as the GT500 wore 255/45/18 and 285/40/18 on this specific showcar/mule. A departure from the 255/19's on the showcar earlier this year. Simply put, the 255 wouldn't hook.

 

It would be more than a few upgrade parts for a supercharger.. It needs to be completely reliable, on and off the track too. GM already has some good data/experience with the C5R with a 427 engine. Plus the SC engine will stil be a specialty 500 hp engine..


427 is also smaller.. and lighter..and doesn't need to bother with a belt and SC to break.. cause there is not SC, intercooler, belt, pullies etc to package in.

So I think GM made the right choice.. I really doubt a SC engine of that performance would be any cheaper in the end..


Anyways, about the Mustang... sounds like for raw magazine stats, it'll give a C6 a fight.

 

A $500(pulley/tune) no longer makes it stock for stock.

 

Ahem, that Z06 time was from one single pass made at a GM event where the driver admittedly granny-shifted down the quarter. I'm waiting for the real good traps, the ones close to/over 130 MPH.

As far as the LS7 vs. blown LS2, I'd say there's two motivations to go with the LS7. First of all, you don't just slap a supercharger on an otherwise unmodified engine and let 'er rip, at least not at any decent boost level. The cost of forged internals combined with the cost of the blower for each car is most likely more than the LS7...even with all the trick parts in the LS7.

Second of all, the time is right to reintroduce 427 into Corvette. Some of it is of course marketing.

 

Very true, but that's the beauty of F/I. Cheap mods can = big impressive gains.

Anyone besides me wishing Ford would ditch these silly blowers all together and go twin-turbo?? *drool*. Regarding parastitic drag, i remember reading somewhere that the Ford GT's 5.4 at redline uses up over 100hp just to run the blower. A set of twins would minimize that. And screw cost. Why worry about cost on a 150k car? And they could easily tack on another 2 grand onto the GT500 without too much fuss from the enthusiasts given the increased power.

Far from a complaint because even the blown version is VERY potent, but something i'd love to see. Guess there's always the aftermarket for that.

 

I think the z06 has solid mid 11 second potential.

You're right about cost. You don't just slap a blower on, you rework the whole engine to handle the boost. Just look at the Ford versions. Yeah, they're multi-cam engines, but they come at a hefty cost in terms of $$$ and weight/fuel economy.

Both have their pluses, and both (ls7 and s/c'd Ls2) would be cool in a high-end camaro (one can dream).

 

Well to point out the same basic thing Gold_Rush stated (I got my C & D in the mail today), the numbers printed WERE NOT TEST NUMBERS. They were GUESTIMATES on how the PRODUCTION car will run and weigh based off what SVT told them (in fact SVT said 0-60 in less then 4.5 so C&D estimated 4.0). There were no actual tests done on the car.

Pretty sweet car, should be interesting to see how the production car should rip.

As for anyone stating the Z06 running 12 flat b/c of one incidence, I seem to remember the Ford boys taking a fit when the video of a Mustang GT surfaced pre-release running around a 14.3 . Let's wait till some actual test numbers actually arise.

Chris

 

re: supercharged 7L Corvette. Remember the "Blue Devil" rumors?

And am I the only one hoping that a lower output 7L Gen4 motor will be produced for other vehicles? Take away the 7000rpm redline and titanium parts and you could easily have a 450hp NA truck or RWD performance coupe or sedan motor option A 7L SSR or Silverado SS or Trailblazer SS would be very fun.

 

A quick question on the GT-500:

Any mention of how many will likely be made?

Ford has an irritating history of creations such as the "Cobra-R" with ultra-low productions numbers, thus turning all the cars into locked-away garage-queens.

Volume, VOLUME!

 

I think Ford said they'll do 7,500 the first year, and they'll build as many as ordered/needed the following years.

 

Ahhh! That would be nice!

I hate to see performance combos limited in an irritating effort to artifically inflate value! Go go go! Make more! Make all you can sell!