Threxx

I think the current federal tax credit only applies to plug-in hybrids and EVs. I think there may also be stipulations about a minimum battery size and/or being able to drive under electric power only.

Chrome383Z

Personally I wouldn't buy a Hybrid on the used car market without some sort of warranty. Definitely won't pay a premium for a "used Hybrid car" over the comparative std model.

But that's just me, more complexity, more to go wrong, for a minimal increase in fuel mileage; especially as these hybrids age.

Darth Xed

So, even if the supposed apples-to-apples cost increase for the e-assist is $15xx, then we are still looking at an approx time of SEVEN YEARS just to break even on fuel savings.


I'm still thinking that's not such a great thing, financially speaking.

routesixtysixer

2011 LaCrosse: 19 city/30 highway/23 combined (verified on fueleconomy.gov)
2012 LaCrosse: 25 city/37 highway/31 combined (per GM)
2011 $0.174 per mile @ $4/gal
2012 $0.129 per mile @ $4/gal
Break even = 35,111 miles

SSCamaro99_3

Isn't the length of car ownership in the US right aroud 4 years? If so, most people won't see a benefit without at least $4 per gallon fuel over their ownership period (My assumption for the combined fuel mileage looks a little high). Basically, depending on how things shake out, it will take 4-7 years to recoup the premium you pay. A mojor spike in gas would be the only thing that would accelerate your savings. However, there would be a point were the "gross" price of gas would be more problematic than the differential between models.

Threxx

Well, again, selling an eAssist LaCrosse will probably get you a fair bit more in resale value. At least that's the way it has been with most other hybrid vehicles. So at 5 years of ownership you may just be breaking even, but once you sell it, you'll have actually profited/saved a bit in total cost of ownership.

Also I assume eAssist makes the 2.4 at least a little more potent in terms of power... especially off the line. That may not have a practical value in dollars and sense, but it is a valuable addition to some people.

DAKMOR

But what's the actual added cost?

$1500 or $2300 added to final price means nothing in this regard. You don't pay for a car all at once.

$1500 for 36 month breakdown is $41.67 extra per payment.
@60 months, it is $25.

say you buy for 5 year payment plan, that's an extra $300 a year. now you go to trade it in 2 years in, on top the added 'zomg hybrid' value, did the extra $600 do its job at $3.50/gal, $3.75/gal, $4/gal.?

Just the spike from $3.50( where can u even find it this cheap?) to $3.75 is really likely in those two years.

my math may seem simple, but the reasoning behind it is complex. theres a lot more to it than just final price of the single option.

Z28x

How do you get 7 years? How many miles a year? $4 a gallon? Also don't forget to factor in 3.1% inflation.

SSCamaro99_3

He is working off my original calculation in post #3. My combined fuel economy for the regular gas model was generous, therefore pushing out the length to recoup.

I paid $3.46 on Sunday.

As someone that buys used cars, I would not consider an out of warranty battery carrying car as a positive. The long term repair costs for these things is not very defined at present. People make lots of illogical decisions trying to be green.

DAKMOR

As someone that buys used cars, I would not consider an out of warranty battery carrying car as a positive. The long term repair costs for these things is not very defined at present. People make lots of illogical decisions trying to be green.

Like the idea of mining toxic metals and elements, then refining them to make special batteries to save 2-3mpg of gas is worth the risk of damage to the enviroment.

SSCamaro99_3

I'd say that is a valid discussion point.

Z28x

You might not, but a lot of Prius and Escape used car buyers do. Used hybrids have good resale. They will only get better as gas goes up.

Since they no longer offer the regular 2.4L, people wanting a 2012+ Buick Lacrosse will have their choice between a 25/37mpg (eAssist) model and a 17/27mpg (V6) model.