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The Blue Devil will be called ZR1...

Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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Good choice. I wonder how long it will take SRT to up the ante on the Viper. 600 hp will not be enough.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:01 AM
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at z/28 sack riders.

End of the world if it's an SS!!

Heresy!

The Chevrolet of 2009 is not the same as the Chevrolet of 1969.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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True, the dog dog Camaro should be named something new or use a great title from the past. I agree that the Z28 has been watered down to some degree and SS (even though in the Camaro it has been watered down less) wouldn't fit due to what GM has been doing with SS on all their models.

Maybe something like Ford did with the new Cobra by naming it Shelby?!?
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by KLee
Good choice. I wonder how long it will take SRT to up the ante on the Viper. 600 hp will not be enough.
They have DI and a couple of other goodies ready to go on the V10 -- should be good for 700 or so. Beyond that... a source in SRT says there's a twin-turbo V10 undergoing testing for a limited-run super-Viper. Whether it will see the light of day sorta depends on how far GM (and any other competition) want to push things, but it exists.

Apparently one snag is that SRT believes that anything over 700 requires sophisticated suspension electronics (launch control, etc), and Viper owners are not so into that idea.

Gonna be an interesting few years.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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blah blah blah SS
blah blah blah Z28
blah blah blah SS
blah blah blah Z28
blah blah blah SS
blah blah blah Z28


Come on...this is beyond silly now...I'm can beat a 70's Z28 in a Mailbu Maxx SS...what is the point.

Z28s and SS Camaros are two seperate cars. It was only in the fourth Gen where the lines were blurred. They are two different packages with two different purposes. BOTH are awesome cars in their own right. Can we stop with this SS vs. Z28...they are built for different purposes and for different people. You are not going to improve the size of your junk by trying to prove the Z28 or SS is better!

:/soapbox:

Now, back to the corvette. I personally like the name SS however, if it is ZR1 or Z06R or whatever...it is going to be an awesome car that will still take down cars that cost 2, 3, or 4 times as much.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by blackrat
at z/28 sack riders.

End of the world if it's an SS!!

Heresy!

The Chevrolet of 2009 is not the same as the Chevrolet of 1969.
It's not? Somebody better tell the design team for the 5th Gen 'cause it looks like 67-69 all over again to me.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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any guess as to what the ZR means..... anyone


and its three ZL1 vettes ..

the yellow one..

silver.. and a white one
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparkz28ss
any guess as to what the ZR means..... anyone
It means nothing, or maybe.........
..............Zora's Racer....


But probably nothing.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
It means nothing, or maybe.........
..............Zora's Racer....


But probably nothing.
Perhaps. I still think the should have called it Corvette Zora.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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As long as it comes out as either ZR1 or ZL1, that'd be fine by me.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparkz28ss
any guess as to what the ZR means..... anyone


and its three ZL1 vettes ..

the yellow one..

silver.. and a white one
2. The 3rd was supposed to be a converted, by GM, L88 car. I don't think the vin # is right.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
That makes no sense at all. Really.

In 1984, the Z/28 was not only the most badass Camaro you could buy - it was virtually the baddest vehicle which GM even offered for sale. It pummeled Porsche so badly in showroom stock racing, that Stuttgard pulled the overconfident 944 out of the series with it's tail between it's legs, so it wouldn't get bitched slapped by Camaro Z/28's in public anymore.
You didn't have to get an LG4, ya know. Properly equipped, a 1984 Z/28 was just a tick behind the 1984 Corvette in performance.


Personally, I'd love to find a clean '84 Z/28. LG4 or L-69.

BTW, over 100,000 people considered the Z/28 cool enough to buy in 1984.
I know you didn't have to get an LG4 in a 1984 z28, and i know it sold very well. But what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

It's obvious you drink z28 flavored kool aid with every meal, but my only point is, the badge simply is not a special, or exclusive. You said it yourself, it was on over 100k cars in 1984 alone. And now, to complete the circle, z06 and ZR1 have always been exclusive badges that meant something special. They were not slapped on L82 corvettes with sticker packages

AAMOF, the thirdgen even more than the lackluster second gen is what killed the Z28 badge IMO. *IF* Z28 had only been used on LU4 and L69, and then LB9 then L98 cars (i.e only top engines), and carried with it mandatory FE4 (or whatever the top suspension was), then you'd be on to something. But as it is, a 1984 z28 was far more likely to have an LG4 with all the same suspension as a base V8 camaro than it was to have an L69 and the fat sway bars.

Again, that is badge dillution. Something the corvette Z badges have never endured.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparkz28ss
any guess as to what the ZR means..... anyone


and its three ZL1 vettes ..

the yellow one..

silver.. and a white one
Actually it's just two the yellow and the white one but a rumor that a red one with a auto trans was tested in late 1968 called the "Saturday Night Special" that car was later tested with a different engine and nobody knows where it is.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by notgetleft
I know you didn't have to get an LG4 in a 1984 z28, and i know it sold very well. But what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

It's obvious you drink z28 flavored kool aid with every meal, but my only point is, the badge simply is not a special, or exclusive.
Nor should it be. Z28 is a Camaro model. What is a Camaro? An affordable, sporty 4 seat coupe. Just like Mustang it is not an exclusive car.

And now, to complete the circle, z06 and ZR1 have always been exclusive badges that meant something special. They were not slapped on L82 corvettes with sticker packages.
Z06 was originally a RPO code, standing for a different fuel tank or pump IIRC, and only until the C5 did it become a badge. ZR1 was a special edition high tech, high performance super Corvette for its day (that sold for 2x the price of a standard Corvette. Aside from the chassis and a few electronics the ZR1 shared very little w/ the standard Corvette.
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by notgetleft
And now, to complete the circle, z06 and ZR1 have always been exclusive badges that meant something special.
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Z06 has always been about 25% of Corvette production. Rather than being exclusive, Chevy built as many as needed to meet demand.

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