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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by formula79
The problem is..they don't want their money back...they want control.
And that IS the problem.
Old May 8, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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And that IS the problem.
yea they want control because they have no faith in Chrysler management being able to turn around the company themselves
Old May 8, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponykillr
My favorite part is how we are unable to talk about Chrysler and GM's management decisions due to the rule that we can not involve politics in discussions on camaroz28.com. Sadly the line between politics and auto production have blended together. I guess we will just have to accept the current management's decisions as if they were magical and unchangeable acts of God.
Well, this thread seems to be going okay so far. I see no reason to delete. Just keep it clean.
Old May 8, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponykillr
My favorite part is how we are unable to talk about Chrysler and GM's management decisions due to the rule that we can not involve politics in discussions on camaroz28.com. Sadly the line between politics and auto production have blended together. I guess we will just have to accept the current management's decisions as if they were magical and unchangeable acts of God.

I think the folks that keep this place a good place are doing their best. I think most of us have heard the old axiom of avoiding religion and politics will keep conversations civil.

You correctly state that government is now essentially management of Chrysler, and to a lesser degree, GM for the time being.

Thus government is a big player in two of the headings of this forum section, "automotive news and industry".

There have been relaxation of the "rules" because of this. Otherwise, this thread wouldn't just be locked, it would be GONE.

I think if we keep it about out opinions of policies that affect the auto industry and not about each other's political leanings it will maybe be OK.

Be that so or not, I'm a guest and as a guest I'm fine that the host should call the shots. That's how it works when I go to someone's house as a guest, and how I feel when I'm hosting someone in my place. It's the pecking order of civility.

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Old May 8, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Of course, the minute I come in here and say everything's fine, the very next reply crosses the line.

(Not yours, Paul -- I deleted a post between mine and yours).

It's fine to discuss this, but stick to the facts and leave everyone's opinions out of it.
Old May 8, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by teal98
Actually, the taxpayer gets his money back by selling Chrysler stock.
Originally Posted by Ponykillr
Haha! Good stuff. Keep it coming.
Looking at historical examples, it has gone both ways. I'm hopeful, but aware that it may not work.
Old May 8, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by teal98
Looking at historical examples, it has gone both ways. I'm hopeful, but aware that it may not work.
Historically speaking, how much was your refund check from Chrysler? If you were not a tax payer then how much was your parents check for money back?

Reported on CNN the other day:

Chrysler won't repay bailout money
An administration official confirms that a $4 billion bridge loan and $3.2 billion in bankruptcy financing won't be paid back by Chrysler following bankruptcy.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/05/news...oans/index.htm
Old May 8, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by teal98
Looking at historical examples, it has gone both ways. I'm hopeful, but aware that it may not work.
Here is a good read on your historical example:
http://www.heritage.org/research/regulation/bg276.cfm
Old May 9, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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yea they want control because they have no faith in Chrysler management to put political goals above making money.
Fixed it for you...
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