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Beautiful, Doomed Gas Guzzlers

Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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^MY guess is his "average" driving is not a 50/50 mix of city and highway (which is what most peopel think of when they hear "average" mileage). Either that or he is seriously hypermiling his Z06...which if you can afford a Z06 i'm not sure the extra $60/month in gas savings is worth it.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C


Not to call you out, since you have a Z06 and I don't, but methinks that if you are AVERAGING 24 mpg in your Z06, you might be missing out on some of its best stuff (like the 505 hp part).



My lowly LT1 might come close to 20 mpg in city / hwy mix if I short shift and stay out of the throttle. When I drive the car like the V8 encourages, I'm in the 17-18.5 range...
I can certainly average under 20 MPG if I choose to but even with the occasional spirited throttle application driving to and from work half the week I see around 24 avg. Best I've gotten is 27 pure freeway and the worst I have seen is 14 between city, freeway and track duty on the same tank.

Originally Posted by indieaz
^MY guess is his "average" driving is not a 50/50 mix of city and highway (which is what most peopel think of when they hear "average" mileage). Either that or he is seriously hypermiling his Z06...which if you can afford a Z06 i'm not sure the extra $60/month in gas savings is worth it.
My split is probably 80/ 20 freeway/ city and I carpool so when on the freeway I'm cruising.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Looking at the cars they have listed this article seems to suggest that NO ONE is interested in fun cars anymore, regardless of price/fuel efficiency/practicality.

I say that's pure hogwash. They're basing this on falling sales numbers of these vehicles, but what they don't consider is that most cars on this list have been out for a while (at least 3 years). Could that have something to do with it? Take into consideration the general excitement regarding the new Challenger and upcoming Camaro and tell me that all people are interested in anymore is the tiny poopbox that gets 40 mpg.

Regardless of what you think about the other cars on that list, there will always be a market for Corvette and Mustang. Period.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Looking at the cars they have listed this article seems to suggest that NO ONE is interested in fun cars anymore, regardless of price/fuel efficiency/practicality.

I say that's pure hogwash. They're basing this on falling sales numbers of these vehicles, but what they don't consider is that most cars on this list have been out for a while (at least 3 years). Could that have something to do with it? Take into consideration the general excitement regarding the new Challenger and upcoming Camaro and tell me that all people are interested in anymore is the tiny poopbox that gets 40 mpg.

Regardless of what you think about the other cars on that list, there will always be a market for Corvette and Mustang. Period.
You are probably correct. However, "excitement" about a particular vehicle doesn't always turn into sales and a lack of sales WILL kill a vehicle no matter how excited a small group of die-hard fans happen to be.

It's often true that a small manufacturer, filling a relatively small market, can afford to build a Camaro, Corvette, Mustang, etc in smaller volumes and make a profit they are happy while a GM or Ford will pull the plug at sales levels the other guys would love to have.

I suspect the fun/performance car market will always be there but it is likely that the choices will be fewer; at least as long as people are so consumed with affording gasoline and meeting their basic transportation needs.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nashville
However, "excitement" about a particular vehicle doesn't always turn into sales and a lack of sales WILL kill a vehicle no matter how excited a small group of die-hard fans happen to be.
I'm not just talking about die-hards. Look around on general auto forums and see what people are saying about the Challenger. I fully agree this doesn't translate into cold hard sales, but it also shows (with the exception of the few smarmy $4/gallon comments) that people are still falling in love with cars that make little logical sense but pack a whole lot of emotion.

That is why I say there will always be a market for Corvettes, Mustangs, Camaros, etc. That market volume may rise, fall, and rise again over the years. But there will always be enough interested people (especially if they keep the product fresh) to sustain those cars.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Solstice could use a 6 speed auto and manual.

These "weekend cars" will take more of a hit from the recession than from $4 gas. Corvette 's can get damn near 30mpg hwy.

Camaro and Mustang are still fairly practical. I hope they can get the LNF pair with a 6 speed in the Camaro as soon as possible.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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These are all fun cars and not all gas guzzlers. Everyone was a 2 door that is available as a convertible. I doubt all, if any, are going away.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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gas guzzlers are going nowhere. america loves v8s, america loves obnoxious styling, and america loves big vehicles. Sure, sales are definitely going to drop, but there will always be the need for guzzlers for people who do not care/ can afford to fill up

Im going to most likely have myself a guzzler(10-20 mpg) and a motorcycle (50-60mph) that way I can still get around when needed and average 40mpg all year long
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