Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
Originally Posted by redzed
I've been licensed for more than a decade and I've never owned a FWD car. Last winter was my first with a vehicle that had either stability or traction control.
I have owned several FWD cars and one RWD car, my Z28. Z28 could get the job done 90% of the time. After I put the winter tires on the back, I never got stuck. But, I had to be careful where I parked and I was not going to take on piles of snow that I deemed too risky. Yes, it took off alright, but it took longer to get going than FWD cars. Yes, it could park, but took longer to get in/out than FWD car.
A big advantage of a RWD car, though, is turning, coming downhill. FWD cars are notorious for understeer in snowy conditions, whereas RWD is better equipped to handle such turns.
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
Originally Posted by redzed
Mainstream FWD products like the 2006 Impala will prove to be the undoing of General Motors as we know it. Sure, a 2006 Impala is better than the 2000 Impala - but the improvement isn't worth the wasted investment.
What GM really needed was Chrysler LX competitor.
What GM really needed was Chrysler LX competitor.
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
I would agree about a FWD having better traction in snow from a stand still.
However in all other situations, I would much rather have RWD for control purposes.
I hate when my Grand Am keeps going straight when I'm trying to turn.
At least a RWD car will go where you point it.
However in all other situations, I would much rather have RWD for control purposes.
I hate when my Grand Am keeps going straight when I'm trying to turn.
At least a RWD car will go where you point it.
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
My motto the last 2 winters here has been "Have Blizzaks will travel". Oh yeah, some weight in the back also helps. Still, lots of folks prefer FWD, so whatever your choice, I wouldn't balk at GM for offering a high power front driver. Especially one that gets to 60 in less than 6 seconds.
Last edited by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!; Aug 9, 2005 at 11:51 AM.
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
Just a quick note on RWD/FWD and snow-handling/traction. The major factors involved in friction are (yes, I paid attention in my college physics class):
(1) the amount of weight being applied per the contact surface area
and
(2) the co-efficient of static friction of the two materials in contact (read: the roughness/grippiness of the two materials; extreme example: think glass vs sand paper).
While traction control systems can control the amount of slip by limiting tire speed, FWD has the advantage of the engine/transmission weight sitting over the front axle -- something that RWD w/traction control just can't beat. I live in Minnesota -- and have driven virtually everything: 4WD, AWD, RWD with and without traction control and FWD. IMO, for a daily driver in snowy weather, FWD beats RWD w/traction control.
(1) the amount of weight being applied per the contact surface area
and
(2) the co-efficient of static friction of the two materials in contact (read: the roughness/grippiness of the two materials; extreme example: think glass vs sand paper).
While traction control systems can control the amount of slip by limiting tire speed, FWD has the advantage of the engine/transmission weight sitting over the front axle -- something that RWD w/traction control just can't beat. I live in Minnesota -- and have driven virtually everything: 4WD, AWD, RWD with and without traction control and FWD. IMO, for a daily driver in snowy weather, FWD beats RWD w/traction control.
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
Originally Posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
My motto the last 2 winters here has been "Have Blizzaks will travel". Oh yeah, some weight in the back also helps. Still, lots of folks prefer FWD, so whatever your choice, so I wouldn't balk at GM for offering a high power front driver. Especially one that gets to 60 in less than 6 seconds.
And if you don't care about drive wheels . . . .
Re: Back from Impala/Monte/HHR training. Impressive figure for Impy 0-60 time...
I almost like it better than the regular HHR. I'm wondering what the HHR would look like if it had more mainstream, non-retro styling to the front end. I'm picturing the front-end of the new minivans scaled down onto the HHR. The HHR would then resemble a "mini-SUV" of sorts.. might be kinda cool. Ahh, I'm rambling..
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