Even though this data is good for GM/Ford I still have to throw up the red flag. The only way this can mean anything to ANYBODY is if you drive/maintain/live in the exact way JD Power does.

Initial Quality is where it's at. That's the ONLY thing you can do to determine "Quality" of manufacturing. Any major defect will reveal itself in the first 90 days. Anything past that is in the Engineering - and how the user operates the vehicle has a large impact on the Engineered components.

And on another note, a vehicle can have excellent Quality, but be a Terrible design. A good Quality vehicle means that you are getting exactly what was engineered after the manufacturing process. The Ford vehicles that are burning peoples houses down could have had EXCELLENT Quality, but it's a bad design.

Just something to think about...

 

I know you can play the semantics game all day, but to me, a vehicle that catches fire and burns a garage/house to the ground is not what I would call a "quality" vehicle.

By the way, anyone notice how every choice in this poll has a very strong negative connotation? Ohhh yeah, it's a redzed poll.

 

That's afwully funny, because as I remember it GM offered NO FINANCIAL SUPPORT to the museum whatsoever for start up/construction. Yes a portion of the museum delivery charge goes to the museum but to my knowledge that's the extent of GM's monetary help to the museum.

Other than the fact that the Corvette Museum wouldn't exist w/o the Corvette, I don't think the musuem owes GM squat.

 

You really like talking out of your *** don't you?

You want to know the reason there is a delivery charge for Museum Delivery?

Answer: the car transporter company and it's drivers union.

The transportation contract GM has for its cars basically mandates this. The transport company and union get a charge no matter if the car is delivered across town or across America. In essense, they are the ones transporting the car across the highway to the museum, and therefore they get their normal cut. Ever Corvette is assessed the delivery charge because it has to be. But you wouldn't know that because you seem to speak first and never ask questions later...

 

Yeah, thats why I never answer any of his polls, they are pointless.

 

I stand corrected on Nissan vs. Gm quality. My information came from the link I posted where scott settlemire talked about GM quality, his numbers dont match JDpowers and I dont know where he got them. I am happy that quality is up, I was really impressed with the individual segment winners, the S-10 beat the tacoma?? I would have never have thought that. Why dont you ever hear GM advertising that? How about talking about quality instead of giving cars away at employee discount.

As for the GXP vs. SE-R, its gonna take a test track to settle that one, they both have about the same price. Bigdarkfast you act like the GXP would blow the altima away. Its not all in the HP, look at the curb weight, the nissan weighs 270 lbs less AND its a stick. I know from maxima.org that the stick cars put 35 more hp to the pavement than the nissan autos. It's too close to call at the strip, but on a road track the altima has the weight advantage and better balance.

I feel the V-8 was a band aid for the grand prix, the car should be rwd. Everyone who buys one instead of a magnum/charger/300 is sending the wrong message to GM. We want RWD not compromises.


Hey GM bring RWD to Spring Hill and talk about quality and watch your market increase.

 

You're talking about Sunderland, England. The real issue is Britain's failure to adopt the Euro, not to mention the fact that it make far more sense of invest lower wage scale countries like Romania - or even in the United States. Try again!

Thanks for dredging up the 2 year old SARS issue. SARS was always overblown as a threat, and now it has been completely irradicated. SARS doesn't exist any more. My advice to you is to stop eatting Civit Cats or anything that's called a "Cat," or even genuine Cats. Don't eat Cats! In addition, stop worrying about SARS.



The issues you mentioned were solved about 18 month ago. The poster in question was a moron who hasn't been paying attention.

Of course, maybe you're real agenda is stir up anti-Chinese sentiments. Personally, I have nothing but admiration for the responsible and serious way the Chinese obliterated the SARS threat. Similarly, I have a great deal of respect for Chinese engineering abilities - not just the quality workmanship that China's exports have recently shown.

China is the next Japan. It will have whether you like it - or not.

 

Those Saturn picnics must be pretty amazing.