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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Australian report: Holden might be sold????

Saw this on GMI. I don't really believe it though....
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...%5E643,00.html
Holden could be sold as GM goes into 'death spiral'
Robert Wilson
March 25, 2006
HOLDEN could be sold off if a desperate General Motors continues to fall into a financial death spiral, a global automotive expert says.

The principal of international automotive strategic consultants Autopolis, Graeme Maxton, said GM was already taking desperate measures to avert the greatest crisis in its 98-year history and sell-offs of its better performing divisions couldn't be ruled out.

"If you look at in terms of pure economics, their investment in Australia must be under question," he said yesterday.

"GM is having to sell off the family silver and close down anything that is not economic to cut costs in order to survive for the next few years," he said.

The Detroit-based automotive giant had already begun disposing of its shareholdings in Japanese makers Isuzu, Subaru and Suzuki, despite these being strategically significant ventures, Mr Maxton said.









And GM yesterday announced it had sold its property financing arm, GMAC Commercial Holding, for $12.5 billion.

"All of these are desperate measures to stay alive. What GM is waiting for is when enough of its pensioners die off that it can re-fund itself and invest for growth again. But it's absolutely hidebound right now. It has so much debt and so many liabilities that it has to simply cut them loose," Mr Maxton said. "They can't do anything until their situation improves but they've got themselves into something of a death spiral because the more they have to cut, the more consumers stay away from their products, the more their market share goes down and the more their losses go up."

Mr Maxton acknowledged Holden was not in the same dire sales situation as GM's US brands whose combined market share fell to a historic low of 25 per cent last year. But he said that the more profitable Holden was, the more tempting it would be for GM to sell it off.

"The question for Holden is who would buy it. There are actually not many companies except maybe a Chinese maker who would buy it right now," he said.

GM's traditional global rival, Ford, was in just as much financial trouble, Mr Maxton said.

"Ford is in many ways in exactly the same situation. The big difference is that GM really does understand how serious its situation is," he said.

"Ford is still pretending it's not that serious but their market share has fallen even more than GM's. The company hasn't woken up to what it has to do."

The cycle of cutbacks and rationalisation that threatened Holden also applied to Ford Australia, Mr Maxton said.

"It's absolutely the same situation but it may take a bit longer because Ford headquarters is in denial," he said.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Australian report: Holden might be sold????

Well,

They have sold off part of (or all of) Subaru, Izuzu, Suzuki, and GMAC. Makes you wonder how much cash they really have and what's next to be sold...
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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I wouldn't put much stock in that...that's pretty much an opinion piece. No real facts or insider tips are presented to back up his speculation. Nevermind Holden's large involvement in the zeta/zegma program.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Personally, considering the closeness of Zegma to Smegma, I would prefer that the platform underpinning my new dream ride (when she comes out) be referred to as something else!
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Re: Australian report: Holden might be sold????

Unlike Subaru, & Suzuki, Holden is as much GM as Opel, Vauxhall, and Chevrolet.

In short, rip apart a Holden & you'll find GM parts and components. Rip apart a Subi, Suzi, and you won't. Isuzu trucks are all made by GM-NA.

Similar situation with Saab. It's so much a part of GM that it can't be sold (uses GM structures).

Article was written by someone who doesn't know this and is doing some misguided speculating.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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It IS possible - see Rolls Royce for a good example.

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Australian report: Holden might be sold????

I side with Guy...it would be nearly as bad as GM selling off Buick. When they're all the same cars with the same guts, how do you sell it off? Could Ford sell Mercury? Sure, the geographics make it more difficult to sell Mercury than sell Holden because Holden is more self-contained, but the premise is still the same...
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rlchv70
It IS possible - see Rolls Royce for a good example.

Randy
Rolls-Bentley was an entire organization that was sold.

Unlike Holden, Rolls-Royce cars & company were obsolete and when sold, both BMW and Volkswagen came up with new models and manufacturing facilities to produce these cars. They had no need to form an agreement with an existing company to continue producing cars for their newly bought company. Holden on the other hand, is a totally different bird.

Holden is a GM engineering center that has a new chassis that is part of GM-Global. Buying Holden would mean that you are paying GM for the Zeta chassis, GM engines and drivetrains, HVAC systems, electronics and wiring, and pretty much everything else save maybe brakes & stereo. Holden also handles all GM sales to the middle east, with Holden V cars taking the place of top line & RWD cars save Corvette & Cadillac. Selling Holden would be like selling a US GM division. Chrysler selling off Dodge? Ford selling off Lincxoln Mercury? About the same.


Jerome York advocated selling off Saab until he got on GM's Board of Directors and saw how integrated Saab is with GM, it's structure, and it's components. Holden's even more.



The writer looked at GM selling off GMAC which was profitable. He then looked at the same thing I see (GM-NA ending GM-Holden's separate identity and folding it into GM-North America operations and last years staffing cut and workforce reductions) but without understanding that Holden has actually become GM's global RWD engineering center and that it's cars will be identical to a large degree under the skin to our cars, and came to a conclusion that is wrong, and believe it or not, has been thought of before. Talk of selling off Holden is nothing new in Australia.

When Holden crashed in the 80s, began using Toyota engines, & the Aussie market was all but owned by Ford, Holden sorely needed new products there was speculation that Holden would be bought out. Even when the newer Vs came out in the late 90s, and sold a version under the Toyota name, there was speculation.

Holden once was something of a private company within GM, and in theory could be spun off. But those days are LONG gone now.


On the flip side, Ford of Australia currently has a unique architecture, body, & engine that has few ties to Ford North America. But because it carries the same name as the company does in other markets (unlike Holden), no one has ever mentioned selling it off.

Funny what the effect of having a different name creates, even though it's the same company.

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Australian report: Holden might be sold????

Ralph says "GM sell Holden, that's unpossible."
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