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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Exclamation Another "HOT" Police car

While everyone's attention was on the Crown Victoria, no one noticed the Dodge Intrepid Intercepter's little problem:

http://www.newschannel5.com/news/inv...tes/brakes.htm
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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That's not uncommon.
My brakes always catch on fire.

Doesn't everyone's?
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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Whoa - that's a problem Yet another reason to respect the amount of engineering that GM puts into their police vehicles.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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So I guess the strategy when being chased by a policeman in an intrepid is to run until his brakes catch fire, then he'll have to take care of that and you can get away!

Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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That is disturbing.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Didn't the Caprices have a balljoint relaiblitly problem in the front suspension? After enough abuse, they would crack and break, making the front tire collapse into the wheel well.. I remember reading it on an Impala SS site.. I believe they fixed it in about 95-96, and the part also went into the Impala SS.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Didn't follow the recommended break in procedure? Are they joking? FIRE is NOT a regular thing to experiance in a car. Should'nt they be building their cars with the expectation that the average user will not follow the recomended break in?
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Intrepid, Impala and Lumina head to head

Email that was sent after testing:


Two tests were performed on the Dodge Intrepid concerning the brakes in pursuit situations. The first test was on 3-12-03. Two new cars were taken to the training center. One had factory rotors, and the other had aftermarket rotors. Both cars were tested on the road course and braking situations. Both cars had smoke and flames from the front brakes. Both were towed to the garage for inspection. DaimlerChrysler sent a representative to inspect the vehicles. He requested another test so that other Chrysler reps could attend. This test was conducted on 4-3-03 0900 hrs. This time we took a new Dodge, 2002 Impala and 1997 Lumina. The Impala and Lumina followed the Dodge on the road course and on some brake tests. The Dodge again had flames and smoke from the front brakes. The Impala and Lumina DID NOT overheat. The representatives then suggested that a vehicle with some miles on it should be tested. We then repeated the test with a Dodge that had 130 miles on it and the same Impala followed it and the test ended with the same results. All vehicles were taken to the garage for inspection. Dodge reps requested to take all parts with them to the factory for further inspection. The Dodge brakes were burnt up. The Impala's and Lumina's brakes were still operable.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Not good for Dodge...

Though, to be honest, I have yet to see an Intrepid Cuiser... ever....
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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Get real... get MOPAR!
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ken S
Didn't the Caprices have a balljoint relaiblitly problem in the front suspension? After enough abuse, they would crack and break, making the front tire collapse into the wheel well.. I remember reading it on an Impala SS site.. I believe they fixed it in about 95-96, and the part also went into the Impala SS.
The balljoint issue was due to improper torque at the factory. There is a balljoint upgrade (9/16" to 5/8"), but it only came from the factory on limo-package vehicles. Assuming that the balljoint is probably torqued, they don't break.

The 9C1s did get recalled for cracked lower rear control arms. A new part was released, and some later '96 B-bodies (mine didn't, as it's an early '96) got this upgraded part.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Couldn't Police Package cars include some sort of vent ala Silverado SS style holes in the bumper/Z06 inlets that would allow cool air to help dissipate the heat. In any event the fires thing is very scary and i'm sure that it would bring up the question of regular Interprids having a similar problem.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Intrepid, Impala and Lumina head to head

Originally posted by muckz
Email that was sent after testing:


Two tests were performed on the Dodge Intrepid concerning the brakes in pursuit situations. The first test was on 3-12-03. Two new cars were taken to the training center. One had factory rotors, and the other had aftermarket rotors. Both cars were tested on the road course and braking situations. Both cars had smoke and flames from the front brakes. Both were towed to the garage for inspection. DaimlerChrysler sent a representative to inspect the vehicles. He requested another test so that other Chrysler reps could attend. This test was conducted on 4-3-03 0900 hrs. This time we took a new Dodge, 2002 Impala and 1997 Lumina. The Impala and Lumina followed the Dodge on the road course and on some brake tests. The Dodge again had flames and smoke from the front brakes. The Impala and Lumina DID NOT overheat. The representatives then suggested that a vehicle with some miles on it should be tested. We then repeated the test with a Dodge that had 130 miles on it and the same Impala followed it and the test ended with the same results. All vehicles were taken to the garage for inspection. Dodge reps requested to take all parts with them to the factory for further inspection. The Dodge brakes were burnt up. The Impala's and Lumina's brakes were still operable.
Though I'm not crazy about Impalas, I remember that one of the big things about the police versions were that it had exceptional brakes. I believe I read it in Car & Driver.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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You know this isn't fair if it was the CV brakes it will be on primetime live. . I feel this is more of a hazard then a car caching on fire if it's rear ended at 80 M.P.H.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Re: Intrepid, Impala and Lumina head to head

Originally posted by muckz
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Two tests were performed on the Dodge Intrepid concerning the brakes in pursuit situations. The first test was on 3-12-03. Two new cars were taken to the training center. One had factory rotors, and the other had aftermarket rotors. Both cars were tested on the road course and braking situations. Both cars had smoke and flames from the front brakes. Both were towed to the garage for inspection. DaimlerChrysler sent a representative to inspect the vehicles. He requested another test so that other Chrysler reps could attend. This test was conducted on 4-3-03 0900 hrs. This time we took a new Dodge, 2002 Impala and 1997 Lumina. The Impala and Lumina followed the Dodge on the road course and on some brake tests. The Dodge again had flames and smoke from the front brakes. The Impala and Lumina DID NOT overheat. The representatives then suggested that a vehicle with some miles on it should be tested. We then repeated the test with a Dodge that had 130 miles on it and the same Impala followed it and the test ended with the same results. All vehicles were taken to the garage for inspection. Dodge reps requested to take all parts with them to the factory for further inspection. The Dodge brakes were burnt up. The Impala's and Lumina's brakes were still operable.
Wow. Im a miltary cop and the patrolman use impalas while the shift leader drives an intrepid. Kind of Ironic actually.



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