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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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True, I didn't think of that, but wouldn't it negate the purpose? I mean so what if you have a DoD 454 that only runs as a 454 or a "normal" 454?
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Got-LT1
True, I didn't think of that, but wouldn't it negate the purpose? I mean so what if you have a DoD 454 that only runs as a 454 or a "normal" 454?
Unless you're going WOT with your foot planted on the floor all the time, there really is not need for the extra four cylinders once you get it up to cruising speed.

You're begining to sound like the same caveman mentality that was used when fuel injection was first introduced on modern f-bodies and folks were crying about how far superior carburetors were and they would never accept a fuel injected musclecar.

Trust the engineers. They're smarter than you think.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Got-LT1
As I have said before I am not a big fan of DoD, but anyway...
How many GM DoD cars have you driven?
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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I expect the F5 to use a 6.0L V8 since rumor has it the 5.7L displacement is going to die.

maybe they will build a 5.3L version of the LS6 @ 370HP
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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I'd be shocked if the HF DOHC V6 found a home in the base 5th gen. A more likely canidate is the upcoming 3.9L 60* V6.

As for V8s, I would expect two different power ratings of the upcoming LS2 with the same displacement.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by poSSum
I'd be a 3 motor advocate.

Base 6 - 240 ~ 260 HP & Torque
Small V8 - either the 4.8L or 5.3L 250 ~ 300 HP 300 ~ 350 Torque c/w DoD and tuned for regular gas.
Big V8 - 6.0L - 350 -~400 HP & TQ - No DoD, tuned for performance with more of an eye to the aftermarket for enhancements. This one could be a fairly expensive option limited to say 10% of total Camaro production. Available only on the "SS" by Pacers defination and "Track Pack".
isnt the 6.0 like 366 c.i.?
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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How many GM DoD cars have you driven?
None, but that dosen't mean I can't like the idea.

jg95z28: I do like advances in cars, however I just don't like the idea of DoD, maybe once it comes out and I try it I'll change my mind but until then I just don't like the idea. Most of my drivng is in a ruel area, and I manage to get red lights a lot, so I do a lot of accelerating, that's why I like to always have the power.

Anyway, carbs aren't THAT bad, but fuel injection is a lot better in a street car.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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Yes the Chevy 302 shares a 4.00" bore with the 327 and 350. It is destroked to 3.00" which works out to 302 cid.

Incidentally the Ford "5.0" has exactly the same cylinder dimensions, which works out to be 4.9488 liters. Not 5.0.

I doubt GM would destroke an LS1 to 302 cid. Cool as it'd be, it would cost money to develop and would make less power than a 346, due to less displacement. (Hopefully) they're smart enough not to spend R&D money making weaker versions of existing engines.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Re: Re: 5th gen engine choices

Originally posted by Z284ever
You will not find a bigger Z/28 enthusiast than myself....
Don't think so?!

But I do agree with your post. While it would be cool, it's not really smart. The Z28 should be as we've discussed so many times before. 2 top models with 2 different purposes. (Z28 and SS) I just want every Camaro model to be the absolute best it can be, everything done to the max, even the base car, which should come with or have a really incredible stereo optional.

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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Got-LT1
None, but that dosen't mean I can't like the idea.

jg95z28: I do like advances in cars, however I just don't like the idea of DoD, maybe once it comes out and I try it I'll change my mind but until then I just don't like the idea. Most of my drivng is in a ruel area, and I manage to get red lights a lot, so I do a lot of accelerating, that's why I like to always have the power.

Anyway, carbs aren't THAT bad, but fuel injection is a lot better in a street car.
when you accelerate or start from a stop you will have all 8 cyl. From what I've read it will mostly just kick in when your crusing when you step on the gas the other cylinders kick in. THe shift from 8 to 4 to 8 cyl. is said to be so smooth that you can't even tell DoD id there, hopfully this is all true.
Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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I threw the 302 out there as a idea. They can put the 4.8 or 5.3 in it and i'd be fine with it. I understand the emissions and crash test certification points.

I just think it would be cool to have three engine displacements in three trim levels.
Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Z28x
when you accelerate or start from a stop you will have all 8 cyl. From what I've read it will mostly just kick in when your crusing when you step on the gas the other cylinders kick in. THe shift from 8 to 4 to 8 cyl. is said to be so smooth that you can't even tell DoD id there, hopfully this is all true.
There was a test drive published a while back on the system. Through a 10 mile course the system activated/deactivated cylinders at least 100 times, I'm thinking closer to 150 though. The writers said that if it was not for a light telling them the cylinders had deactivated then they would not have been able to tell at all. It was seamless apparently.

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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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My opinion:

6.0 V8 400hp
5.3 V8 300hp
3.8 S/C V6 260hp
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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5.3L almost equals 327cid for those of you that like that stuff...
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by steves
My opinion:

6.0 V8 400hp
5.3 V8 300hp
3.8 S/C V6 260hp
THe 3.8 S/C V6 should put out 300HP if they can get a good transmission to go with it.



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