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Old 12-20-2003, 04:55 PM
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300 hp...315 lbs/ft torque....

That's what the Feb. '04 issue of MT is reporting for the '05 Mustang GT.

Someone on BON has an issue of it.
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Old 12-20-2003, 05:06 PM
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Not bad.

Before people start comparing it to the F-body LS1s, the Mustang GT is taking up the mid-level position in the next Mustang's lineup. Much like that 5.3 V8 mid-grade Camaro alot of us here want.

The +/- $30K Mach1 and the $35K+ Mustang Shelby Cobra will cover the Stang's performance arena.
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Originally posted by guionM

the $35K+ Mustang Shelby Cobra
"Shelby" Cobra? guion....are you holding out on us?
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"Shelby" Cobra? guion....are you holding out on us?
No,He is'nt.
Where have you been?Shame on you for not knowing this.
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No,He is'nt.
Where have you been?Shame on you for not knowing this.
I know about the Shelby deal.....but as far as I know, "SVT" Cobra hasn't been replaced by "Shelby" Cobra. I've heard rumors that it might be....but I've also heard rumors that SVT Cobra Mustang and Shelby Mustang would be two seperate models.

What's your latest scuttlebutt?
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I believe 11 months ago I told you guys the Shelby Mustang was coming. I see no one believes me.

I will say I have a lot more faith in GM than I did 11 months ago.
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is the next mustang gt getting a m6 or is it staying m5?
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SVT Cobra is cooler than Shelby Cobra.

Maybe it's just my age though.
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Originally posted by guionM
Before people start comparing it to the F-body LS1s, the Mustang GT is taking up the mid-level position in the next Mustang's lineup. Much like that 5.3 V8 mid-grade Camaro alot of us here want.

The +/- $30K Mach1 and the $35K+ Mustang Shelby Cobra will cover the Stang's performance arena.
True, but you'd also have to point out that Z28 was the "mid-level" Camaro with an LS1 that had quite a few more ponies than 300, for about the same price as the new Mustang GT......
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True, but you'd also have to point out that Z28 was the "mid-level" Camaro with an LS1 that had quite a few more ponies than 300, for about the same price as the new Mustang GT......
not to mention weighted 200-300 lbs less...
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not to mention weighted 200-300 lbs less...
but you have to face it, it did have the cat hump.

[sarcasm may have been involved]
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Originally posted by muckz
but you have to face it, it did have the cat hump.

[sarcasm may have been involved]
i prefer to think of it as a conversation starter.
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Well, if those numbers are correct, then they are about what was expected. I said that they would not go over 300 hp (just a feeling) and i guess they didn't.

I guess i missed the part about the Shelby name taking over the SVT name too. So does this mean that the SVT name is dead? Is it now just the name of the performance division like GMPD or PVO, where the model designations are different from the division(SS, SRT)?
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Well, if those numbers are correct, then they are about what was expected. I said that they would not go over 300 hp (just a feeling) and i guess they didn't.
I'd be more interested in the actual dyno numbers. Hopefully, the actual numbers are closer to 320hp. It'll need that, and a weight of no more than 3450lbs to to be as fast as the current Mach 1.

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I guess i missed the part about the Shelby name taking over the SVT name too. So does this mean that the SVT name is dead? Is it now just the name of the performance division like GMPD or PVO, where the model designations are different from the division(SS, SRT)?
I don't think the "SVT" designation is dead. I hope not. I personally would rather see an SVT cobra over an Shelby Cobra if i had to choose between one of the two. I believe the Lightning will still retain the "SVT" designation. Unless they apply this whole change to the whole future SVT lineup, i don't think they'll single out the Cobra. The Cobra and Mustang is a big part of SVT.

Chevy seems to have SS accross the board, Dodge has SRT. It would make sense if Ford sticked with SVT accross the board as well. It'd be nice to have that uniformity if you know what i mean.

I see the shelby possibly taking the place of something like the SVT Cobra R.
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Great business decision by Ford on this one. Why spend money on more power when theres virtually no competition and you still have more power than your not-so-direct competition (Like WRX, Evo, etc...) No need for the extra power when you alreaddy have a car thats going to sell like its no bodies business.
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