2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
06-24-2011, 02:18 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
As far as Wrangler goes I believe they're talking about value in terms of what you get for the money vs. the competition and not resale value.
Of course, the fact that their residual values hold well speaks to their popularity, so the Wrangler must be a "valuable" package to a lot of people.
Of course, the fact that their residual values hold well speaks to their popularity, so the Wrangler must be a "valuable" package to a lot of people.
06-24-2011, 02:36 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
I still have my second gen S-10. Biggest regret I have is that I sold my 91 when I bought my 03 Xtreme.
The truck was built like a tank and I did EVERYTHING with it. Farm work, cruising, hunting, hauling loads, pulling tanker trailers, camping, etc. All of that and it was a single cab, 2wd with a 2.8 V6 and a 5 speed stick. I did things with that track that cats with nice shiney 4x4 full sizes would wince at.
I kept in good shape and the only thing I ever changed on the truck was a starter and a radiator (It was cheaper to get a new one with aluminum tanks when the old plastic ones began to leak on the OEM radiator).
When I got rid of "Timex" she had 265,000 miles on the truck. It still runs to this day as I see it around town.
The truck was built like a tank and I did EVERYTHING with it. Farm work, cruising, hunting, hauling loads, pulling tanker trailers, camping, etc. All of that and it was a single cab, 2wd with a 2.8 V6 and a 5 speed stick. I did things with that track that cats with nice shiney 4x4 full sizes would wince at.
I kept in good shape and the only thing I ever changed on the truck was a starter and a radiator (It was cheaper to get a new one with aluminum tanks when the old plastic ones began to leak on the OEM radiator).
When I got rid of "Timex" she had 265,000 miles on the truck. It still runs to this day as I see it around town.
06-24-2011, 02:54 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
Town and Country was cited for poor quality.
Uhm, uh....
As an exception, J.D. Power called the all-new Dodge Durango a "notably strong performer," ranking second best in the midsize crossover class. The Dodge Challenger finished first in the "midsize sporty" segment, and the Chrysler Town & Country ranked first among minivans.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110624/...#ixzz1QE4KBYA1
Uhm, uh....
As an exception, J.D. Power called the all-new Dodge Durango a "notably strong performer," ranking second best in the midsize crossover class. The Dodge Challenger finished first in the "midsize sporty" segment, and the Chrysler Town & Country ranked first among minivans.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110624/...#ixzz1QE4KBYA1
06-24-2011, 03:13 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
Actually it was cited for reliability, we've gone over the difference between JD Power "Initial" quality and long-term reliability studies before.
Aren't the Chrysler vans relatively new though? Interesting that they would already have long-term studies for this generation already.
Aren't the Chrysler vans relatively new though? Interesting that they would already have long-term studies for this generation already.
06-24-2011, 09:10 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
Wrangler cited for worst value?? WTF? A 3 year, real-world residual on the stupid things is like 65-70% (I'm not referencing the ALG, which still continues to knock the Wrangler harder than it should, and has since bankruptcy)....
Wranglers have just about the best resale of any domestic vehicle I can think of...I mean, like Honda good...
Wranglers have just about the best resale of any domestic vehicle I can think of...I mean, like Honda good...
06-24-2011, 10:24 PM
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Re: 2011 Forbes Worst Cars on the Road
As far as Wrangler goes I believe they're talking about value in terms of what you get for the money vs. the competition and not resale value.
Of course, the fact that their residual values hold well speaks to their popularity, so the Wrangler must be a "valuable" package to a lot of people.
Of course, the fact that their residual values hold well speaks to their popularity, so the Wrangler must be a "valuable" package to a lot of people.
Town and Country was cited for poor quality.
Uhm, uh....
As an exception, J.D. Power called the all-new Dodge Durango a "notably strong performer," ranking second best in the midsize crossover class. The Dodge Challenger finished first in the "midsize sporty" segment, and the Chrysler Town & Country ranked first among minivans.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110624/...#ixzz1QE4KBYA1
Uhm, uh....
As an exception, J.D. Power called the all-new Dodge Durango a "notably strong performer," ranking second best in the midsize crossover class. The Dodge Challenger finished first in the "midsize sporty" segment, and the Chrysler Town & Country ranked first among minivans.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110624/...#ixzz1QE4KBYA1
And thinking of Caravans of the past, our family owned a 1993 Plymouth Voyager. My dad sold it in 1996 with 90k (he drove a LOT back then). The same guy still owns it. It's a 17 year old minivan for Christ's sake...I can only imagine the new ones are as equally crappy (and reliable?). Certainly not "worst car" material.
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