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Old 07-03-2008, 07:40 AM
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2010 Mustang With 300 HP Eco-Boosted Four-Cylinder

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Ford To Bring Mustang SVO Badge Back For 2010 With 300 HP Eco-Boosted Four-Cylinder

We've now heard from a second source that Ford is readying a return to the 2010 Ford Mustang of a badge familiar to malaise-era muscle car fan-boys — the Mustang SVO. Just like the original limited edition mid-eighties Mustang was all about merging power performance with fuel efficiency — we're hearing similar rumblings on this new 'stang. We'd already heard Ford's plans for the Boss engine lineup and we already understood the new Mustang would be less V8-focused than the current Mustang's muscular lineup. We'd also heard the pony car would be receiving Ford's new silver bullet, a twin-turbocharged engine equipped with their new EcoBoost technology. What we hadn't heard was what the boys over at Garage419 today claim — that it'll be a four-banger capable of hitting 300 HP and this newly-badged 'stang will be lighter than the GT by 500 lbs. Holy game-changer, Batman!

We're told G419's source is pretty good, and since we'd heard something about Ford's strategy when it comes to these new engines over drinks a couple weeks back, we're inclined to believe it. Mostly because we think we know who their source is — and since if he's who we think he is, he knows something about the high-performance side of Ford. One thing we're hoping is that this won't nix our desires to see the EcoBoost V6 under the hood. Because if there's one thing we like more than more power, it's not having to pay an arm and a leg at the gas pump for it. [via Garage419]
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I always thought this seemed like a better idea than the TTV6.
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So what will the fuel economy numbers will be and will there be a Camaro alternative?
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Interesting if true.
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Originally Posted by 2001Firehawk
that it'll be a four-banger capable of hitting 300 HP and this newly-badged 'stang will be lighter than the GT by 500 lbs.
You don't just magically remove 500 pounds from a production car, do you?
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500 pounds is a lot of weight...I can see maybe 75-100 pounds being saved by going with the turbo 4 cylinder. But where are the rest of the savings? If they are telling the truth though and there will really be a <3,100 pound stang...bye bye camaro.
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Great idea. Nice to see Ford respecting the guys who grew up in that time period by reviving that name for this car. The masses won't care, but there will be plenty of people my age that will immediately be intrigued especially after seeing the numbers if it in fact does come out with 300HP (I'm not buying the 500lbs part).

Now if only Ford would name that powerful Taurus they're talking about a SHO.
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
You don't just magically remove 500 pounds from a production car, do you?
You can magically add 300 lbs going from the base GT to a loaded GT500, so why would going from a V8 base GT to a 4 cylinder not take off a few hundred lbs?
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
You can magically add 300 lbs going from the base GT to a loaded GT500, so why would going from a V8 base GT to a 4 cylinder not take off a few hundred lbs?
cause you'd be ADDING to go from GT to GT500 stuff. what exactly will you be taking away here? a stronger read end? nope still has 300hp. a blower? nope adding a turbo and piping. it will lose a few over it being a 4cyl vs an V8 but whats that 100lbs? then add that turbo and piping back on. i just do see much were you can take away. needs just as beefy stuff as a 300hp GT.
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
You can magically add 300 lbs going from the base GT to a loaded GT500, so why would going from a V8 base GT to a 4 cylinder not take off a few hundred lbs?
Well, you yourself said from a base GT to a loaded GT500... That includes all the options, all the additional components to handle the power of the GT500, wheels, etc..., and supercharger and intercooler, as well as a larger engine. All of that adds as much as 300 lbs.

How do you expect to drop 500 lbs by going from a base V6 to a base turbo 4-cylinder? Don't forget the weight of the turbo/plumbing and the intercooler. Can you throw out various unnecessary components? What are they? How much weight would they save?

Edit: to shed 500 lbs is no simple task at all, especially if you're shedding it from something that is already a stripped base model.
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I've never see a turbo 4 get any better MPG then an LS1 so I'd really be surprised if there's any point to making this.
And I imagine the ONLY reason they are thinking about it is CAFE and needing better MPG.
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
You don't just magically remove 500 pounds from a production car, do you?
Not without a Sawzall you don't.

I call BS on the 500 lbs. trick.
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Yeah right! Maybe 500lbs less than a GT500.
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I think they added too many zeros. Unless they plan to make this an all aluminum Mustang, I dont see 500lbs without a serious lack of something else, or an increase in cost.
And this is the same company that cut out 200 bucks per car to add a live axle instead of IRS.
Maybe the turbo 4 wont have more then 1 seat?
And someone explain to me how this is more acceptable then a Camaro with the LNF? Rumors of Camaro getting a 4cyl, and people want blood.
Talks of Mustang SVO turbo 4 and people praise Ford's foward thinking.
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Well the mod motors aren't exactly small, that could be the source of the majority of the weight savings.
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