1.They cried wolf too many times.
2.Someone else is going to have to compare the two cars before I believe a problem was corrected. If there ever was a problem.
You can't trust car mags anymore.

 

Well you know; if they really can't be trusted then perhaps the board needs to ban ANY posting that contains information from any automotive related magazine/publication (or if that's not specific enough; create a list of publications that can't be used for information).

I've even been told, not very long ago, that we can't even trust what GM publishes on its own web sites!

I mean really...where is a person supposed to go for information that has absolutely ZERO bias and that NEVER makes a mistake???

 

I dont remember those accusations of bias when rags discussed the Z06's handling in its first year.

The rants about media bias always follow an article dripping wet with the cheap shots at GM embedded to it.

 

Remember this? http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190852

 

On the flip side of things, maybe the mags were TOLD that GM re-valved the shocks, or whatever they did, so the drivers expected something better, and they had no troubles with the car (more time behind the seat ... more used to the car than last year? ) so they praised them for the "changes" that were (not ) made!

 

yourself.

 

Well, that's great advice but not very realistic.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to dozens and dozens of cars or the connections within all the manufacturers or the free time needed to allow me to test drive all these various cars or to take them to the track for extended testing nor the $$$ needed to buy to equipment to do the testing even if I had access to all the vehicles and I doubt that very many peope on this board do either.

 

Do you really think he's unbiased?

 

what's that got to do with the car you buy?


if your in the market for a sports car why go look at pickups or SUVs?

 

If you check out this thread, I'll think you'll see references that illustrate what I was talking about...http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...handling+track

I'm fairly sure there are more direct examples but I don't really have time right now to look for more.

 

?!?! Almost anything Ive ever read about the car echo'ed the same sentiment about its difficulty driving fast around a roadcoarse . So GM makes changes to the suspension and now suddenly the mags cant say its really really good without a huge controversy ? If I was writing the article , you better be damn sure I would back track too like they did , and explain why I suddenly had a change in faith about the cars "changed for the better" track handling characteristics . While Im not a huge fan of the big 3 auto mags , I just dont get why it's being made such a deal off . Man .....wait till the CTS and Malibu get great reviews . What a controvery that will be

 

I want to read about cars and trucks of all kinds...vehicles I would never buy (or could never afford)...why should I limit my interests to only those relatively few cars I'll buy in my lifetime???

Do you think the local Bently dealer is going to let me take one out for a couple of days just to see what it's like?

How many Chevy dealers will let me do extended testing with a Z06 or maybe take it to the track so that I can see for myself how it really handles at speed???

That aside, one or two little test drives in a vehicle is hardly the same as the testing done by most magazines...they have their place; even when they say things that followers of a particular nameplate don't like to read.

 

i understand what your saying but what i'm saying is what if one mag liked and the other hated it...but you kinda like it but haven't driven yet........who would you listen to?

 

I can't say I've ever been in a situation quite that cut and dried and even if I did, I don't think I'd ever buy or not buy a vehicle I wanted just because of what a magazine said or didn't say.

It also depends a lot on the vehicle being considered...some, perhaps even most vehicles are bought for very pragmatic, mundane reasons in which case, testing results, and stats and dependability ratings, etc, may take on more importance. Other vehicles are bought simply because of how they make you feel...you buy them because you love them. In those cases, what a particular magazine/writer has to say really isn't going to make any difference at all.

Even then, however, I don't belive a person has to blind themselves to legitimate comments made about a car...just because you love a car doesn't mean you can't acknowledge its shortcomings (and they all have them).

 

Im sure even if they posted the top 3 to be GM cars, some people here would still think the magazine is biased just because they didnt choose GM the other year. That's how objective some people are here. Cant you be just glad they chose the Z06 as #1 and they provided the info as to why they chose it??