The chances of a Camaro return are slim to none and here's why!

1)All of the corporate bull**** with the CAW.

2)The bean counters at GM.

3)No-one pushing for it at GM. Bob Lutz doesn't care about the Camaro, Kirk Ritter seems to care but he's against the people in reason 2, and Fbodfather is in no real position to make it happen.

I would love to see the Camaro return, but nobody at GM cares or has the power to do it.

Fbodfather can keep blowing smoke up are a$$es, but I'm not buying it.

All Corvettes are Red is a fine book about the Corvette, but the Camaro has it much, much worse.

All that said with the new GTO coming in 06. Chevy will probably get it's own version and that will be it.

Did I say I like the 05 Mustang.

 

1. Wrong! It's not just the CAW that GM has to deal with over this.

2. It's not the bean counters. They will pay for whatever the GM Stratedy Board approves... once it gets that far. It's way more than that.

3. Dead wrong on no one pushing for it. The 2 people you mention are actually the best friends Camaro has at the moment...ESPECIALLY Kurt Ritter.

FBfather isn't in the position to make Camaro happen, true. But I wouldn't call enthusiasm blowing smoke up our neather regions. I would definately call him a log on the fire, or one of the people really fanning the flames under a new Camaro, though!

Lutz's is helbound to put a niche vehicle in each division's showroom (just like Chrysler when he was there) and he considers Corvette Chevrolet's version. But of all reason's Camaro isn't comming back immediately, that is one of the lesser reasons.

Bluntly, there isn't anything currently that GM can build a Camaro on without turning it into it's own structure, and that ain't going to happen.

Also, Camaro is under team Corvette. If GM gives them an extra few dollars, do you really think they are going to put it towards a Camaro unless there is someone forcing it? Did I mention that Corvette is actually run independently of the rest of Chevrolet?

Camaro most certainly will be back. Seems it now has enough firepower and momentum to come back. The Bengal/Sky/Solstice (as PacerX and people I correspond with pointed out) is the best thing that's happened to move Camaro forward.... but that was before the Mustang concept was shown.

 

Do you think they will name the Chevy version of the '06 GTO Chevelle? sure the GTO is bigger than the camaro but not by much. and maybe the '06 GTO will slim down to 3400lbs. and they could call it Camaro

 

[Note to self]

Call Fbodfather and ask him to stop blowing smoke up cobraeaters ***.
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I am sure Fbodfather wouldn't stick his neck out and tell us to have faith if there was no reason. It would do nothing but hurt his reputation in the end. How many GM execs do you see taking so much effort to interact with the enthusiasts (anyone even know who the Firebirds brand manager was?). Also the fact he got a promotion shows GM is happy with how he handled the 4th gen Camaro's final days and that they trust him to shape it for the future. There is much more than meets the eye in this situation and an emotion charged opinionated post is nothing but insulting to someone who works so hard for us.

Do your self a favor and don't be an assclown

 

Since the Camaro is under team Corvette, when the new Vette comes out for 2005 or whenever, they should have plenty of time on their hands to work on a new Camaro after that...

On a side note, do you think that once the GTO is made in the US it will be as good of a car as the one that is coming over from Australia right now?

 

He's 100% right on this!

 

guionM, You seem to have the inside track as far as information is concerned....
That being said, from what you know did the 05 Mustang concept really have that much of an impact on B. Lutz and company?
I guess what I'm trying to say is, was this the push Camaro needed?
And as far as GM is concerned I am unfamiliar with Kurt Ritter what exactly does he do?

Thanks
Eddie

 

We dont know much about the C6 out of the Vette camp aside from a few powertrain issues, imainge how easy it would be to burry a Camaro program inside that.

But its probably wishful thinking.

 

If it's not just the CAW, then who else?

If the GM strategy board is not the hurdle, what is (Bob Lutz)?

I noticed guionM you answered my questions in the typical vague manner you usually do.

If you know something why aren't you telling us instead leaving the rest of us to guess from your riddle answers.

 

I'M NOT A DAMN ROBOT!!! Excuse me for showing emotion every once and awhile.

GM give away little hints and details on everything they have coming, but a Camaro!

I'm sick of GM secret plan for a Camaro where they don't care what they're putting it's fans through.

Let me know when we get to the end of this rainbow where GM announces a new Camaro,formula!

I'm personally sick of GM's BULLS***!!!

When the 05 Mustang come out watch the potential market for a Camaro dry up, and even then it won't come out for another 2-3 years if that!

 

My guess is the Canadian Government.

I am guessing they gave GM some sort of tax breaks as part of the grand scheme of things....

 

For virtually the entire "brand management era", Corvette, Camaro and Firebird, would always be under one manager.

 

That's what I've thought for a while now.

 

If that's true, why is it when you hear Red talk about the Firebird, he always said he didn't work on that car?

 

Bob Kraut was the Firebird brand manager. He is now the brand manager of the GTO. I'm assuming GM shifted the whole Firebird brand team over to GTO.