2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Originally Posted by Z28x
MSNBC showed GTs rolling off the line and said they would be in show rooms in 3-4 weeks.
http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?t=1...b-569542e8e327
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http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?t=1...b-569542e8e327
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Plus, I can show you a lot full of them at the AAI plant ready to be loaded onto trucks...
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
If it is true, well actually regardless because of past issues, where do you think the problem is? Is it in design, manufacturing, or assembly? Applys to 03/04' Cobra too. I hope that it isnt true because I am really anxious to see a bunch of numbers on the car everyone has been speculating so much about. The preliminary stuff says it runs a lot faster than the old one and handles better, but by no means great. Supposedly brake fade was "disturbing" after just two hot laps on the track and the skidpad numbers I saw were 0.84. They did say its best slalom was over 66mph, which is good, but it still understeers pretty decent. Also said there was a lot of front end chatter when hitting bumps in the corner.
I like the 1/4 times if they are true, but Im not sure Im that inpressed with the rest of the car. 235 tires!!! Get the hell out of here. And there is not room for a whole lot more tire in those rear fender wells from what I saw on the pre-production car.
I like the 1/4 times if they are true, but Im not sure Im that inpressed with the rest of the car. 235 tires!!! Get the hell out of here. And there is not room for a whole lot more tire in those rear fender wells from what I saw on the pre-production car.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
You do realize that the '05 Mustang GT 4.6 heads have NOTHING in common with the 03/04 Cobra heads.......... right???
The '05 Mustang has 3-valve per cylinder heads, and the '03/04 Cobra has 4-valve per cylinder heads. The '05 Mustang 4.6 is a SOHC design, while the '03/04 Cobra is a DOHC.
Just wanted to make sure that we are talking about the same thing here.
According to those who work at the engine plant, and on the Mustang line, the problem with the heads is a parts problem. One of their suppliers is running behind, so they were short of one part. In todays automotive manufacturing, most lines are run on a "just in time" supply. Thus, there is no stock in a warehouse to be used. If the product does not arrive "just in time" then that item cannot be built.
66mph is very good for the slalom. It is better than the CTS-V (65mph), and is only .2mph slower than a Z51 C6 Vette (66.2mph). It is even significantly better than the '04 GTO (63.5mph). This shows that the suspension is doing its job. The low G's are indicitive of the 235 tires low grip. BTW, all of the slalom figures I used were also from Motor Trend.
How many other new $25K V8 cars can run 66mph in the slalom, and 13's in the quarter............. on regular fuel???
I realize that you are a Camaro guy, however, is it really necessary to throw all of the skepticism around??? Can't we just wait and see if other rags (mags) get similar results............... and then if actual owners do too??? Then you can bash based on reality instead of heresay.
PS. I have never known anyone to win at the drags because they had a better trap speed. E.T. is king. The Mustang has always been a good drag car because it launches well. According to MT, the new one launches even better. At the end of the day, the winner will be the person with the lowest E.T. Noone will care if the loser had a higher trapspeed........... he is still the loser.
The '05 Mustang has 3-valve per cylinder heads, and the '03/04 Cobra has 4-valve per cylinder heads. The '05 Mustang 4.6 is a SOHC design, while the '03/04 Cobra is a DOHC.
Just wanted to make sure that we are talking about the same thing here.
According to those who work at the engine plant, and on the Mustang line, the problem with the heads is a parts problem. One of their suppliers is running behind, so they were short of one part. In todays automotive manufacturing, most lines are run on a "just in time" supply. Thus, there is no stock in a warehouse to be used. If the product does not arrive "just in time" then that item cannot be built.
66mph is very good for the slalom. It is better than the CTS-V (65mph), and is only .2mph slower than a Z51 C6 Vette (66.2mph). It is even significantly better than the '04 GTO (63.5mph). This shows that the suspension is doing its job. The low G's are indicitive of the 235 tires low grip. BTW, all of the slalom figures I used were also from Motor Trend.
How many other new $25K V8 cars can run 66mph in the slalom, and 13's in the quarter............. on regular fuel???
I realize that you are a Camaro guy, however, is it really necessary to throw all of the skepticism around??? Can't we just wait and see if other rags (mags) get similar results............... and then if actual owners do too??? Then you can bash based on reality instead of heresay.
PS. I have never known anyone to win at the drags because they had a better trap speed. E.T. is king. The Mustang has always been a good drag car because it launches well. According to MT, the new one launches even better. At the end of the day, the winner will be the person with the lowest E.T. Noone will care if the loser had a higher trapspeed........... he is still the loser.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Yes I know the heads are different and I darn sure know the problem with the Cobra heads is not because a part is back ordered. I was just curious where you think the problem lies.
I was born and raised a Chevy guy, yes, but I have become less brand loyal and try to be open minded and subjective about cars. We will have to see if that 66mph is backed up as they mentioned it was their best run. Of course we can wait for the other mags and real people, but we got to pass the time right!
I was born and raised a Chevy guy, yes, but I have become less brand loyal and try to be open minded and subjective about cars. We will have to see if that 66mph is backed up as they mentioned it was their best run. Of course we can wait for the other mags and real people, but we got to pass the time right!
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
I called the guy I bought my Sunfire from this morning to update him on my car as he requested and asked him if there was any delay on production on the Mustang (he works on the assembly line). He said there is not and everything is going well on the new car. Looks like the dealer is full of crap.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Originally Posted by Doug Harden
See red is a very popular color.
So when should they be hitting streets? Next week?
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Cool pic and most of those are GT's to boot.
Some people (rich) have already received theirs. The AAI plant isn't up to full production yet, so they're going to be a bit scarce until the end of the year.
Some people (rich) have already received theirs. The AAI plant isn't up to full production yet, so they're going to be a bit scarce until the end of the year.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Since you say the plant isnt up to full speed and they are going to be scarce until Jan, then maybe thats why he woulnt be receiving his car on time. Guess the dealer just decided to tell him it was heads instead of delay? Regardless that means there woulnt be a lot of GT's until January, thats a bummer. Why would Ford not be up and running full steam at the release of their all new Mustang? With so many people anxiously awaiting them for so long and expecting them anyday now, thats gonna really **** some of them off. Errrr, I guess this is one of the reasons why American automakers anger me so much. They just cant put it all together.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Originally Posted by ZZtop
Since you say the plant isnt up to full speed and they are going to be scarce until Jan, then maybe thats why he woulnt be receiving his car on time. Guess the dealer just decided to tell him it was heads instead of delay? Regardless that means there woulnt be a lot of GT's until January, thats a bummer. Why would Ford not be up and running full steam at the release of their all new Mustang? With so many people anxiously awaiting them for so long and expecting them anyday now, thats gonna really **** some of them off. Errrr, I guess this is one of the reasons why American automakers anger me so much. They just cant put it all together.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Originally Posted by ZZtop
Since you say the plant isnt up to full speed and they are going to be scarce until Jan, then maybe thats why he woulnt be receiving his car on time. Guess the dealer just decided to tell him it was heads instead of delay? Regardless that means there woulnt be a lot of GT's until January, thats a bummer. Why would Ford not be up and running full steam at the release of their all new Mustang? With so many people anxiously awaiting them for so long and expecting them anyday now, thats gonna really **** some of them off. Errrr, I guess this is one of the reasons why American automakers anger me so much. They just cant put it all together.
Companies can only build cars so fast. American or not. What makes you think that Ford isn't up and running at full steam? Should they take 6 months and build 500,000 cars before they launch?
All this indicates is, there's a ton of demand for the Mustang and they can't make them as fast as they're selling them. Seems like they've got it all together to me.
Last edited by MunchE; Oct 1, 2004 at 05:53 PM.
Re: 2005 Mustang GT delayed until Jan!!!!
Sounds like this BS thread was started on bad information and poor assumption.
A "guy" on the internet was told by a "dealer" that GT's weren't shipping because of a problem with the heads. BON quoted their "source" as saying Mustang production was stopped.
When will people learn?
S.
A "guy" on the internet was told by a "dealer" that GT's weren't shipping because of a problem with the heads. BON quoted their "source" as saying Mustang production was stopped.
When will people learn?
S.


