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2005 GTO's almost SOLD OUT!!!!

Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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About potential GM rear-wheel-drive products: First of all, for those who say GM is overcommitted to front-wheel-drive, I’d say that’s not quite true. We have the small rear-wheel drive architecture that will spawn the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky. We have the Cadillac CTS, STS and SRX, three excellent rear-drive vehicles. And of course we have the Chevrolet Corvette and the Cadillac XLR. And the rear-wheel drive 2005 Pontiac GTO is practically sold out, despite initial worries of whether it would ever reach its targeted volume of 18,000 a year. Right now on the West Coast they just don’t have enough of them to go around, because it’s such a great car to drive. So there’s a whole host of rear-wheel-drive cars that we have already
http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives...er_d.html#more

I know Z284ever already posted a link to this article, but I thought the above highlighted deserved it's own thread.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Uhm, not quite sure how he can say that. But hey, I have a navy 6 speed in stock. Come on down guys, and get it! Maybe I have one of a handful left in the Northeast??
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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If they are selling like hot cakes out west they should ship the Northeasts winter supply out there.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Already commented in the other thread. I don't understand how a sales rate of less than 1000 per month for 2005 GTOs adds up to 18k in a year - unless they are counting on doubling those sales through the summer. Which is possible, I suppose.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Already commented in the other thread. I don't understand how a sales rate of less than 1000 per month for 2005 GTOs adds up to 18k in a year - unless they are counting on doubling those sales through the summer. Which is possible, I suppose.
doh... I posted too late.

was't 2005 model only going to be 12,000 originally? Or are they still tring for 18,000 a year but just making the '05 year short (time and units) and pringing out the 2006 sooner.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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I thought they had lowered the 2005 sales goal, but I don't know the exact number. If they did, then Lutz' statement is n/a from the get-go, IMHO.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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The 2005 GTO's didn't start shipping till January I thought
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DrewSG
The 2005 GTO's didn't start shipping till January I thought
Production start is September and we get them by the turn of the year.

The 2005s are in fact almost sold out because production is about to end (shortened year). For 2006, GTO will start production next month (if not sooner) and will be in showrooms this fall.

Remember, the higher up guys at GM consider a car sold after it's shipped to the dealer, not when you buy it like the lower level guys and you & I consider it.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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2005 YTD sales (ignoring model year) are 5,465 which would translate into 13,116 for the calendar year. I'm glad to see they're selling better but don't quite understand Bob's reasoning either.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
The 2005s are in fact almost sold out because production is about to end (shortened year)....

Remember, the higher up guys at GM consider a car sold after it's shipped to the dealer, not when you buy it like the lower level guys and you & I consider it.
So they're almost done producing them (something less than 18k, if memory serves), and dealers have placed orders for them all - thus "sold out" becomes valid?

Not trying to argue with your or question your statement, but that doesn't seem to be very good justification for Lutz' comment - unless his primary audience were those higher up guys that you referenced.
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Are those U.S. sales or global sales?
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by poSSum
2005 YTD sales (ignoring model year) are 5,465 which would translate into 13,116 for the calendar year. I'm glad to see they're selling better but don't quite understand Bob's reasoning either.
Pontaic sold 2,952 GTOs in Dec.

8,417 in 6 months = 16,834 for the calendar year (Summer not included)
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
Pontaic sold 2,952 GTOs in Dec.

8,417 in 6 months = 16,834 for the calendar year (Summer not included)
Not sure I follow what you're trying to say. Please explain.

I will add that though Pontiac did indeed sell 2,954 GTOs in December, that and September sales were huge outliers compared to the rest of they year:

Dec: 2954
Nov: 1130
Oct: 1258
Sep: 2678
Aug: 967
Jul: 897
Jun: 598
May: 638
Apr: 650
Mar: 719
Feb: 606
Jan: 476

What was it that made those two months so big?

Another interesting thing to watch....starting in Jul, 2004 sales were much better, thus the 05 cars will have to sell much better than they are now in order for folks to post these big percentage number gains.
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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I believe they cut the '05 production from the 18K units to 12K units, unless GM reversed that desision and I didn't hear about it.

By the way how many '05s were destroyed in that train wreck a few months ago?
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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12k or 18k don't really care. I'm just glad to hear they are selling better than they were last year.
I might not like the car but I don't want to see it fail.

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