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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Do you know something everyone else doesn't Branden?
that his index finger isnt long enough to hit the "6" on the keyboard!!

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by Chuck!
On a side note, I saw my first GTO on the street yesterday and I was able to pick it out about half a mile away. I didnt confuse it with a Grand Am/Prix for a second, maybe it's just me though.
Just you. I came up on a Grand AM the other day. It wasn't until I saw GTO on the back that I realized what it was. I was even looking for a GTO!
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Just you. I came up on a Grand AM the other day. It wasn't until I saw GTO on the back that I realized what it was. I was even looking for a GTO!
wow, thats original
Ive seen the car many times, and it doesnt even look anything like a Grand Am. Your just a hater.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Just you. I came up on a Grand AM the other day. It wasn't until I saw GTO on the back that I realized what it was. I was even looking for a GTO!
You must either be blind or not know anything about cars, the back of the GTO and Grand Am look nothing a like.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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wow, thats original
Ive seen the car many times, and it doesnt even look anything like a Grand Am. Your just a hater.
Actually I like the GTO, thus I've been looking for one on the street. Looks like a Grand Am to me That's just my opinion. If you're going to bash me for my opinion you might as well bash me for thinking the C6 looks like a Viper too.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by PaperTarget
Just you. I came up on a Grand AM the other day. It wasn't until I saw GTO on the back that I realized what it was. I was even looking for a GTO!
Yeah!! and the '05 mustang isn't retro at all!!!
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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You must either be blind or not know anything about cars, the back of the GTO and Grand Am look nothing a like.
I think the same about you sometimes too BTW, it's just my OPINION that they do look a like. You probably think the 1968 Mustang looks like a 2005 Mustang too. Maybe we're both blind? LOL
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Yeah!! and the '05 mustang isn't retro at all!!!
People starting to hate now...what did I do? Wow, can't even give an opinion now with a mob coming after me
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by PaperTarget
Actually I like the GTO, thus I've been looking for one on the street. Looks like a Grand Am to me That's just my opinion. If you're going to bash me for my opinion you might as well bash me for thinking the C6 looks like a Viper too.
There is opinion, then there is just flat out wrong or ignorant. I find that the Mustang population seem to be very ignorant.
Now, Ive seen the GTO in almost every single color, and I have yet to see the resemblance OTHER THEN the twin port grill, and horizontal lights.
Outside of that, I dont see anything that the Grand am and GTO look like. I can see the C6/Viper comparision, but not the GTO/Grans Am. Sorry, but your opinion is more based on what you have heard from your ford buds then your own opinion.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Big Als Z
There is opinion, then there is just flat out wrong or ignorant. I find that the Mustang population seem to be very ignorant.
Now, Ive seen the GTO in almost every single color, and I have yet to see the resemblance OTHER THEN the twin port grill, and horizontal lights.
Outside of that, I dont see anything that the Grand am and GTO look like. I can see the C6/Viper comparision, but not the GTO/Grans Am. Sorry, but your opinion is more based on what you have heard from your ford buds then your own opinion.
I see a lot of ignorance from the GM guys too, I can throw mud too if you like. I've owned many brands, GM included. You're just as ignorant and biased as anyone else. Hell, even some of the GM guys thinks it looks like a Grand Am. Read some of the old threads.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by PaperTarget
I see a lot of ignorance from the GM guys too, I can throw mud too if you like. I've owned many brands, GM included. You're just as ignorant and biased as anyone else. Hell, even some of the GM guys thinks it looks like a Grand Am. Read some of the old threads.
does this GM person own a 4th gen fbody? I find they are just as abrasive when it comes to the GTO as the Mustang guys. Being biased would have me saying something else. I just honestly dont see the grand am look in the GTO.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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I admit my GM bias, will you admit your ford bias? I also admit i like the looks of the new mustang. Even though it is retro, it looks great! As for the GTO, it looks like a grand am the way a grand prix looks like a grand am. There are major similarities between all pontiacs! It fits in the pontiac lineup perfectly. I'm sorry, but there is something wrong if you can't tell them apart.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by PaperTarget
I see a lot of ignorance from the GM guys too, I can throw mud too if you like. I've owned many brands, GM included. You're just as ignorant and biased as anyone else. Hell, even some of the GM guys thinks it looks like a Grand Am. Read some of the old threads.
The people that say GTO looks like a Grand Am are just pissed because the GTO doesn't look like a WS6. I have also heard GM and Ford people compare it to the Aztek too, I don't think I need to tell you how crazy that is. The car that the GTO looks like the most is the BMW 3 series coupe, but you won't here GTO haters say that, that would be a complement since the BMW is a respected car, they would rather put it down by saying it looks like the Grand Am which is a lesser car, even though they look nothing a like other than the trademark Pontiac split grill.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Tackleberry
I admit my GM bias, will you admit your ford bias? I also admit i like the looks of the new mustang. Even though it is retro, it looks great! As for the GTO, it looks like a grand am the way a grand prix looks like a grand am. There are major similarities between all pontiacs! It fits in the pontiac lineup perfectly. I'm sorry, but there is something wrong if you can't tell them apart.
I definitely lean toward Ford, but only because they've made cars I like. However, when it came time to retire my F-150, I didn't get another Mustang (which I considered). I got a 2002 Subaru WRX. Why? Because the WRX is a nicer car IMHO than the 2002 Mustang. It had a lot of bang for the buck. I knew it wasn't as fast (but pretty close). I had never owned a turbo or AWD car before and wanted to try it out. So, while I lean toward Ford, I'm not so biased that I won't buy another brand. I didn't consider GM because they didn't have anything in 2002 that I liked other than the Vette. Now, they have the GTO and are coming out with a few other nice cars. I like the GTO, but wouldn't buy one because it has no trunk and is really heavy.

I never said the GTO looked EXACTLY like a Grand Am. They're similar just like you said. I can tell them apart, but the GTO just didn't stick out enough for me to tell them apart until I came up on the car and saw GTO on the back. That's when I realized it was a GTO. I was going to talk to the guy to see what he thought about it, but he turned off before I could He lives in my neighborhood so I'll get another shot to talk to him. I like the way the GTO looks, but I think the back fender is a little plain. The new changes should make it stand out a little more
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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No one here is going to accuse me of being a GTO hater by a long shot, so take this for what it's worth: Keep some perspective here.

Not everyone is good at telling cars apart. I have no problem telling a GTO apart from a Grand Am, and neither does alot of people. However, some people do. Some people (alot actually) have problems telling a Camaro from a Firebird, a Firebird from a Probe when more than 75 feet away (I've made that mistake myself), or a Firebird from a Corvette from a block away without the rear visible.

It doesn't bother me , and I don't take issue with people who say GTO is kind of plain (perfect stealth car ).

As long as someone doesn't damn the whole car (or come up with really retarted or made up excuses to slam it) simply because they don't like the styling, or start rewriting GTO history, or start whining about some GTO "look" (beyond a hoodscoop) that doesn't and never existed, let opinions be opinions!



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