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Old 11-15-2002, 11:30 AM
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2004 Rx-8

http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&sid=184&n=157


article mentions suicide doors.. but I don't see it, unless its only on one side?

and more room for people in the back??

its bigger, yet ligther than the last gen RX-7?

no turbochargers, but still has the same peak poweroutput as the rx-7?

2004 Mazda RX-8
Base price: $25,000 (est.)
Engine: RENESIS 1.3-liter rotary, 250 hp/159 lb-ft
Drivetrain: Six-speed manual transmission, rear-wheel drive
Length x width x height (mm): 4435 x 1770 x 1340
Wheelbase: 2700 mm
Curb weight: 2900 lb (est.)
EPA City/Hwy: 18/23 mpg (est.)


If they keep it at $25,000...............
is it me or does the length seem a little long?


Heh, i find it ironic that my Camaro gets better gas milage than it though..
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I find it Ironic that it gets 250 ponies out of a 1.3 liter Its fugly though, glad im not getting one
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and a 10000 rpm redline.honda what?
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Beyond the valley of fugly.
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Aaaawww... it's so cute smiling at me and everything.

Looks like a little yellow smurf!!
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maybe it has a small rear door like the saturn
either way it would look stupid on a sports car
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159lb ft of torque? Pfft. Why bother. What is this obsession with engines (Honda S2000 anyone) that have to be revved to >7k and kept there and only still manage to make a poxy 160lb-ft?? Also despite the tiny engine and lack of any real grunt, the fuel consumption of these cars is nothing to shout about either. Waste of money if you ask me.
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Old 11-15-2002, 03:48 PM
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To make the same HP as the Turbo is cool. But what happens when you want more HP with it. OOPPsss, can't turn up the boost. You have to change the cam or port an already great head. Probably wouldn't get much. Certainly not enough that the cost was worth it. I know. Throw a turbo on it. Too bad it never came with one.
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Originally posted by LT1runner
To make the same HP as the Turbo is cool. But what happens when you want more HP with it. OOPPsss, can't turn up the boost. You have to change the cam or port an already great head. Probably wouldn't get much. Certainly not enough that the cost was worth it.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm
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Originally posted by StreamlineZ28
maybe it has a small rear door like the saturn
either way it would look stupid on a sports car

You are correct, I'm quite sure.


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I guess I'm the only one that thinks it looks good
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Originally posted by Meccadeth
I find it Ironic that it gets 250 ponies out of a 1.3 liter Its fugly though, glad im not getting one
I read in Sport Compact Car that the dispacement of a Rotary motor was only advertised as the displacment for 1 chamber, hence a 3 rotor 1.3L motor actually dispaces 3.9 liters when all is taken into consideration. They just advertise 1.3L to make the motor seem extremely efficient. They proved it by counting the number of times the spark plugs fire when rotating the crank.

Atleast thats what I think I read. I'll have to dig the magazine up and re-read it.
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Reminds me a bit of a Honda S2000
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That rotary link is actually very very helpful, lol, i know how it works, so now the question is, how do you get one to make more power?

And what if they made one of the rotors a heck of a lot bigger, hypotehtically, it would make more power with less moving parts, forget gas, wouldnt this be great though?
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Originally posted by Aeromaks
That rotary link is actually very very helpful, lol, i know how it works, so now the question is, how do you get one to make more power?

And what if they made one of the rotors a heck of a lot bigger, hypotehtically, it would make more power with less moving parts, forget gas, wouldnt this be great though?
Well, get more air in and out would make more power, but how to do that without FI? *shrug*

I'm sure there are some fancy pants methods, but I can't say I have more than a basic knowledge of rotary motors. I just thought the heads/cam stuff was funny in response to a rotary.

I imagine the best route for power on this engine is going to be forced induction, but hey, starting where it is, it should make a lot more power turbocharged than the old motor did.

I know the big upgrade on old RX-7s was going to the 3-rotor engine, I wonder if the RX-8 comes with 3 rotors stock...

a new type of engine dubbed the MSP-RE, a naturally-aspirated 2-rotor Wankel with side exhaust ports that resulted in cleaner emissions
Nope. But 250hp stock and 2900lbs ain't half bad.

I actually like this car quite a lot, and hey, X-Plan applies to Mazda too. Maybe I could get one at invoice, grawr. Around 2004 it's going to be between this and the new Mustang for me, methinks. We'll see.
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