2004 Impala SS vs. 96 Impala SS
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
See, though... the "ya, but with a few mods..." arguement always falls short.
If you get to bolt on a few mods, so does the guy with the 04 SS. And all he needs is a cheap pulley to push 300hp... and he's blowing you away again... with less money in the mods.
See, though... the "ya, but with a few mods..." arguement always falls short.
If you get to bolt on a few mods, so does the guy with the 04 SS. And all he needs is a cheap pulley to push 300hp... and he's blowing you away again... with less money in the mods.
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Originally posted by IZ28
A good stock L98 G92 wouldn't need mods. The LB9 Manual G92 might need mods. I'm seeing 14.7-15.0 for this car so far. L69s should be able to give them a good run. I just know I'll see these races over at TGOs Street Board, so there I'll get to hear some outcomes.
A good stock L98 G92 wouldn't need mods. The LB9 Manual G92 might need mods. I'm seeing 14.7-15.0 for this car so far. L69s should be able to give them a good run. I just know I'll see these races over at TGOs Street Board, so there I'll get to hear some outcomes.
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Most cars can't beat the .92G skidpad all stock even today so I guess you're right!! (most probably can't beat the .29-.34 Cd also!) In general though I'd say that only the L98 G92 Thirds are completely safe from this car. But the ones with 2.77's might have to/better keep a look out.
But anyway we're comparing the 2004 Impala SS vs. 96 Impala SS, not Third Gen vs. new Impala SS.
Most cars can't beat the .92G skidpad all stock even today so I guess you're right!! (most probably can't beat the .29-.34 Cd also!) In general though I'd say that only the L98 G92 Thirds are completely safe from this car. But the ones with 2.77's might have to/better keep a look out.But anyway we're comparing the 2004 Impala SS vs. 96 Impala SS, not Third Gen vs. new Impala SS.
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Originally posted by IZ28
A good stock L98 G92 wouldn't need mods. The LB9 Manual G92 might need mods, but if you drive aggressively enough I'd probably bet not. I'm seeing 14.7-15.0 for this car so far. L69s should be able to give them a good run. I know I'll see these races over at TGOs Street Board, so there I'll get to hear some outcomes.
A good stock L98 G92 wouldn't need mods. The LB9 Manual G92 might need mods, but if you drive aggressively enough I'd probably bet not. I'm seeing 14.7-15.0 for this car so far. L69s should be able to give them a good run. I know I'll see these races over at TGOs Street Board, so there I'll get to hear some outcomes.
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Re: Re: 2004 Impala SS vs. 96 Impala SS
Originally posted by redzed
Car and Driver, June 1994: Impalla SS
0-60mph = 6.5 seconds
1/4 mile = 15.0 seconds@92mph
Top Speed = 142mph
Braking, 70-0mph = 179ft
(Way better than the distances for LT-1 F-bodies!)
Skidpad = .86g
The last "real" Impala SS was produced in 1996. That car accelerated, handled, stopped and looked like a champ.
Car and Driver, June 1994: Impalla SS
0-60mph = 6.5 seconds
1/4 mile = 15.0 seconds@92mph
Top Speed = 142mph
Braking, 70-0mph = 179ft
(Way better than the distances for LT-1 F-bodies!)
Skidpad = .86g
The last "real" Impala SS was produced in 1996. That car accelerated, handled, stopped and looked like a champ.
I have to agree with Red here. The 94-6 will run 15 flat stock. Mine seems to get a little faster the more miles I put on it??
(did I just agree with Redzed?
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
What does any of this even mean?
The fact remains that an 04 SS will outrun a 96 SS, and if you throw "a few mods" into the equation, then it's only fair to allow the same for the 04... in which, it will still win.
I won't even begin to address the "POS 04" statement, since build quality on the 04 would destroy the 96.
What does any of this even mean?
The fact remains that an 04 SS will outrun a 96 SS, and if you throw "a few mods" into the equation, then it's only fair to allow the same for the 04... in which, it will still win.
I won't even begin to address the "POS 04" statement, since build quality on the 04 would destroy the 96.
As far as build quality, '91-'96 B-bodies were more than adequate. Overall, seating materials (fabric and leather) were better than some newer GM cars, and the current Wimpy still has tons of mold-marks on interior plastics. Oddly enough, the paint used to be of a higher quality as well. Did I mention that final generation B-bodies barely rust, even after 13 years of road salt?
Say what you want, the '94-'96 Impala SS is a future classic.
However, I'm sure the 2004 car is much easier to recycle.
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Originally posted by redzed
I don't think that the '04 Wimpala will take a lot of meaningful mods. That fragile little transaxle ain't up for much more than stock. Real deal Impys could take a full Callaway Supernaturual treatment. I think a 383 conversion beats any tuned '04 Wimpy SS you can envision.
As far as build quality, '91-'96 B-bodies were more than adequate. Overall, seating materials (fabric and leather) were better than some newer GM cars, and the current Wimpy still has tons of mold-marks on interior plastics. Oddly enough, the paint used to be of a higher quality as well. Did I mention that final generation B-bodies barely rust, even after 13 years of road salt?
Say what you want, the '94-'96 Impala SS is a future classic.
However, I'm sure the 2004 car is much easier to recycle.
I don't think that the '04 Wimpala will take a lot of meaningful mods. That fragile little transaxle ain't up for much more than stock. Real deal Impys could take a full Callaway Supernaturual treatment. I think a 383 conversion beats any tuned '04 Wimpy SS you can envision.
As far as build quality, '91-'96 B-bodies were more than adequate. Overall, seating materials (fabric and leather) were better than some newer GM cars, and the current Wimpy still has tons of mold-marks on interior plastics. Oddly enough, the paint used to be of a higher quality as well. Did I mention that final generation B-bodies barely rust, even after 13 years of road salt?
Say what you want, the '94-'96 Impala SS is a future classic.
However, I'm sure the 2004 car is much easier to recycle.
Do you hate every new GM car
I like V8s, RWD, and the LT1 SS looks better too, but the new Impala SS is a very good car and has respectable performance #'s. While it is not what my ideal Impala SS would be, it is a damn good step in the right direction.
What would I like the see the W-body Impala SS become? I'd like to see the Gen IV 5.3L V8 put in the car and Versatrak AWD starting at $29,995. AWD is a $2000 option on FWD SUVs and Vans so why not offer it on the Impala SS, that way the right wheels can be spinning
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
The fact remains that an 04 SS will outrun a 96 SS, and if you throw "a few mods" into the equation, then it's only fair to allow the same for the 04... in which, it will still win.
I won't even begin to address the "POS 04" statement, since build quality on the 04 would destroy the 96.
The fact remains that an 04 SS will outrun a 96 SS, and if you throw "a few mods" into the equation, then it's only fair to allow the same for the 04... in which, it will still win.
I won't even begin to address the "POS 04" statement, since build quality on the 04 would destroy the 96.
What mods have I done to my 96 SS? internally stock engine (136k miles), your basic intake and exhaust but still on the stock exhaust manifolds, torque converter, gears, suspension mods, and some weight reduction (but it's still a bunch heavier than the 04) and I got several 13.4s at the track a few weeks ago. Stock vs stock, the 04 would be quicker than the 96. But I believe there is more potential in the 94-96 B-body. How many supercharged W-bodies have hit 10s or 11s, yet alone 9s?
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Originally posted by Z28x
Do you hate every new GM car
Do you hate every new GM car
2003+ (except GTO)
Not to go off on a side-thread here... but I think 2003 is one of GMs darkest years... the first year with no f-bod, and all the styling went to $h|+. I cannot get used to that silverado front end... or that big chrome (ahem, plastic...) bar that stretches across every chevy's front end. 2004 pontiacs look horrible... the utility vans look horrible (not that I care) ... the malibu is the best example in my hand... that thing looks
I love the GTO, and although it could look a lot better, it DOESNT look disgusting like every new car gm is coming out with these days.As for the original topic... Id much rather have a '96 no question in my mind. Proven bulletproof, good-looking, and fast car. (which is a v8 rwd by the way)
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Originally posted by AdioSS
I disagree on the first part, but not on the second.
What mods have I done to my 96 SS? internally stock engine (136k miles), your basic intake and exhaust but still on the stock exhaust manifolds, torque converter, gears, suspension mods, and some weight reduction (but it's still a bunch heavier than the 04) and I got several 13.4s at the track a few weeks ago. Stock vs stock, the 04 would be quicker than the 96. But I believe there is more potential in the 94-96 B-body. How many supercharged W-bodies have hit 10s or 11s, yet alone 9s?
I disagree on the first part, but not on the second.
What mods have I done to my 96 SS? internally stock engine (136k miles), your basic intake and exhaust but still on the stock exhaust manifolds, torque converter, gears, suspension mods, and some weight reduction (but it's still a bunch heavier than the 04) and I got several 13.4s at the track a few weeks ago. Stock vs stock, the 04 would be quicker than the 96. But I believe there is more potential in the 94-96 B-body. How many supercharged W-bodies have hit 10s or 11s, yet alone 9s?
3.4" pulley, airbox, and catback exhaust is good for mid 13's @ 100+.
My '99 GTP w/ the 3.4" pulley did 14.2@97 in late May w/ ~2000' DA.
The 2004 Impala SS only weighs ~50lb's more than the 4dr. GTP's, so IMO they're right there w/ the tank Impala SS's in regards to 1/4 e.t. versus mods.