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$23,430...extremely well equipped, 225hp, 15.4sec 1/4 mile....

Old Sep 5, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
I thought this thread was refering to the Colorado ZQ8.


I'd bet it could.
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
I thought this thread was refering to the Colorado ZQ8.
I thought the same thing.

Damn that Toyota is ugly, it looks like the last gen of Tiberon
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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It may be ugly...but people will be cross shopping this car with other coupes....Camaro will just be one of them.
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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15.4 second 1/4 miles are entirely acceptable for a $23k, luxury oriented, sporty coupe. As a Z28, its pathetic...but to the target audience for this car, thats fine. My Grand Am runs a 15.5 in the 1/4, and as a point A to point B car, which is the market for this car, the Solara and many others like it, thats fine...

If a base Camaro pulls a 15.4, fine with me...
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 02:41 AM
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I don't think so at all.

It's FWD for one, and the styling is the complete oposite of a Camaro - current or 5th gen. Bloaty, big-assed and just not very sportscar-alike. A gussied up Camry.

People who buy the base camaros either (a) know what a Camaro means and want a v8 but can't afford the extra and/or insurance OR (b) don't really know much about f-bod & Camaro heritage and muscle and performance but think it looks sporty / somewhat aggressive / fast. which suits their lifestyle.

Either way the reason they even give an f-bod conisderation for a new purchase is because of a) or b).

People buy Toyotas like Camry and whatnot 'cos they don't want to stand out from the crowd and the cars are supposed to be stolid and reliable.

This is why this bland, tedious Camry sibling is no future base 5th gen competitor. The Mustang and to a lesser extent EVO, WRX/STI etc fulfil that role nicely. If GM is going to take market share from anyone with a *successful* 5th gen - it will be Ford and then Mistu, Subaru. and perhaps Madza (RX8).
exactly my thoughts. In addition, I liked the looks of the '03 and older solara's not the '04+. In addition, the muscle competitors to the 5th gen would obviously be the Evo VIII and STi, Not RX-8 which people are realizing is a POS. Renesis is disappointing alot of people with its 170hp and 120ft/lbs
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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I think a person shopping for a car like this wouldn't even be thinking about a Camaro. Competitor?! Nevva!! Even if a base Camaro ran the same as this car it's still in a different category all together.
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